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28th July 2011, 18:53
Tom206wrc

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmcv

I've been at a presentation of the Impreza R4 in the Azores two weeks ago. STI Japanese technicians said their goal was to be about 1.3 seconds/km slower than the S2000 and around 1.4 seconds/km faster than N4's. Might be true but we're never sure because there is always a part behind the wheel and stepping on the peddals...
Truth is Arai and Nutahara never came close to S2000's and were clearly beaten by N4's...

R4... another japanese failure in motorsport ??? :confused:
28th July 2011, 18:57
miksu

Cant complain about MTV3max :s live broadcast with Markku Aléns comments as icing on the cake.
28th July 2011, 19:13
N.O.T

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom206wrc

R4... another japanese failure in motorsport ??? :confused:

in world level yes.

they are good for local village people events though since they are cheaper.
28th July 2011, 19:15
CABAIO E'LONA

once again, spectacular Ott Tänak ...
28th July 2011, 19:25
fmcv

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom206wrc

R4... another japanese failure in motorsport ??? :confused:

Probably, specially if it comes to be true the story about low cost swrc cars at about 100.000€...

In comparison to N4's the makes will probably put the difference clearly: if they can't make the r4 much faster they can surely make the n4's a bit slower...

business as usual :)
28th July 2011, 19:26
fmcv

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom206wrc

R4... another japanese failure in motorsport ??? :confused:

Probably, specially if it comes to be true the story about low cost swrc cars at about 100.000€...

In comparison to N4's the makes will probably put the difference clearly: if they can't make the r4 much faster they can surely make the n4's a bit slower...

business as usual :)
28th July 2011, 19:46
Miika

Unsurprisingly the broadcast ended before Tänak´s turn, plus they cocked up Ketomaa´s run as well and showed him only at the finish of the stage. But here are the top guys in SS3, featuring Mikko and his new coupé Fiasco:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6U3m17N4A0
28th July 2011, 19:57
fmcv

thanks!
28th July 2011, 19:57
Fly

Salo???
28th July 2011, 20:03
dimviii

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom206wrc

R4... another japanese failure in motorsport ??? :confused:

Τοm it is not a japanese failure.With these rules you can t produce something better.Except if you mean that a european manufacture could make it better.
Yoy can t beat a rally car which borned from a blank paper for this purpose,with half way solutions like R4
28th July 2011, 20:08
VFTS

Quote:

Originally Posted by makinen_fan

they are not impressive times, but lets give time till tomorrow, maybe they will speed up somewhat

VW have stricktly said, the only goal is to finish! Just a test for the whole team. The cars are just customer-cars, not factory cars. They will not have the same diffs and so on.

The car Hänninnen drives is a factory-car. The same car he used in Acores.
28th July 2011, 20:09
dimviii

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fly

Salo???

Salo has a time of 7,43 in ss3.What is his problem anybody knows?
28th July 2011, 20:26
Fly

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimviii

Salo has a time of 7,43 in ss3.What is his problem anybody knows?

12'43 in fact

That's a super rally time as it is 10 min over Hanninen's time.

Bad news. The guy is always exciting to follow. I've seen him live many times.
28th July 2011, 20:28
Miika

About Salo: electrical problems and a retirement, says the Finnish rally forum.
28th July 2011, 20:34
GINE

What about Touohino? Why didn't he start?
28th July 2011, 20:35
Barreis

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miika

Unsurprisingly the broadcast ended before Tänak´s turn, plus they cocked up Ketomaa´s run as well and showed him only at the finish of the stage. But here are the top guys in SS3, featuring Mikko and his new coupé Fiasco:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6U3m17N4A0

Thanks.
28th July 2011, 20:36
dimviii

Quote:

Originally Posted by GINE

What about Touohino? Why didn't he start?

Financial problems some Fin mates wrote some days before.
28th July 2011, 20:37
dimviii

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miika

About Salo: electrical problems and a retirement, says the Finnish rally forum.

Will he start at Friday? We can t miss this battle with Pga-Nikara-Flodin!
28th July 2011, 20:44
Fly

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimviii

Salo has a time of 7,43 in ss3.What is his problem anybody knows?

12'43 in fact

That's a super rally time as it is 10 min over Hanninen's time.

Bad news. The guy is always exciting to follow. I've seen him live many times.
28th July 2011, 20:46
tfp

Will Hirvonens car be repaired for tomorrow or do we have to wait for the service interval?
28th July 2011, 20:46
Fly

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miika

About Salo: electrical problems and a retirement, says the Finnish rally forum.

Kiitos!
28th July 2011, 20:48
Barreis

There's Rantanen's off on wrc.com
28th July 2011, 21:00
bluuford

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barreis

There's Rantanen's off on wrc.com

Can anyone convert it to youtube... WRC.com videos do not work for me today:-(

Seems that we had very interesting day;-)
28th July 2011, 21:03
dimviii

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluuford

Can anyone convert it to youtube... WRC.com videos do not work for me today:-(

Seems that we had very interesting day;-)

+1 also for me not working.Any mate that can upload at youtube?
28th July 2011, 21:09
jonkka

Quote:

Originally Posted by tfp

Will Hirvonens car be repaired for tomorrow or do we have to wait for the service interval?

Yes, there is 45 min flexi service at the end of today's leg (or day, as it's called nowadays).
28th July 2011, 21:15
dimviii

Joke of the 2011 world rally championship :D :D :D

5. Matthew Wilson/Scott Martin (Ford Fiesta RS WRC)
The slow start, but this stage was much better. :vader: No tactics for us. :vader:

SS 2: Laukaa

ps interesting comments from drivers at official site after all ss
28th July 2011, 21:21
dimviii

Finally Hirvonen ,Salo as Rantanen will start at Friday

Friday start list
http://www.nesteoilrallyfinland.fi/a...2-17-14253.pdf
28th July 2011, 21:24
Plan9

what happened to the terminator?
28th July 2011, 21:25
Miika

Rantanen´s off: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LENh1jDBjhM
28th July 2011, 21:30
bluuford

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plan9

what happened to the terminator?

He meltdown if I remember correctly?
28th July 2011, 21:31
Woodeye

It wasn't that bad. He was unlucky, there was rock at the bottom of the ditch. He was already climbing out from there when it hit.
28th July 2011, 21:38
dimviii

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miika

Rantanen´s off: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LENh1jDBjhM

Τhanks a lot Miika!!
28th July 2011, 21:43
COD

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woodeye

It wasn't that bad. He was unlucky, there was rock at the bottom of the ditch. He was already climbing out from there when it hit.

Sure, but he was also extremely lucky that the trees of bushes there kept the car on its wheels that long. Mind you it was a 6th gear corner...
28th July 2011, 21:45
Mintexmemory

Dont discount Paddon and Ketomaki
28th July 2011, 21:46
COD

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimviii

Will he start at Friday? We can t miss this battle with Pga-Nikara-Flodin!

PgA in a R4, Nikara and Flodin in N4 so in different class
28th July 2011, 21:50
dimviii

Quote:

Originally Posted by COD

PgA in a R4, Nikara and Flodin in N4 so in different class

Yes thats true,but as you saw from stage times r4 didn t show any serious advantage so far.
28th July 2011, 22:02
dimviii

interesting story
It
28th July 2011, 22:23
dimviii

nice photos from autosport.cz
Autosport : MS - Neste Oil Rally Finland (SWRC, PWRC)
28th July 2011, 22:54
tolis

Anyone know what happened to Protasov?
28th July 2011, 23:08
tfp

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonkka

Yes, there is 45 min flexi service at the end of today's leg (or day, as it's called nowadays).

Great, thanks for the info:-)

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