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3 years! :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
18 or 24 months is becoming the norm in the UK for subsidised handsets, but a few providers are moving back to 12 months on cheaper phones. I'm on a 24 month deal but it does have an option at 12 months for an upgrade or a discount.
I've never had longer than a 12 month contract and have no intention of doing so either. Certainly whenever my wife has had an 18 month contract she's been very frustrated with the phone in the final 6 months.
I think I'm on a 24 month contract but tbh I only did so as no one offered WP7 phones on PAYG. I did have money set aside just to buy the phone outright but no one wanted to sell one to me! :p Next time I think I'll just buy the phone outright as it ends up being cheaper :) When Nokia release their Windows Phones in 2012 I will probably upgrade if they offer any big improvements over my Omnia 7. That said I did get a better deal on my contract by haggling a bit :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave B
Contract? Don't deal with any of that rubbish. Seriously though my use of a phone is so light that it would be silly for me to go contract. I have PAYG with o2 and if I top up by £10 I get 500mb internet and 300 free texts for the a month, I haven't yet exceeded either of those limits. Also I phone people so rarely that I never really eat into the £10 either, so after two months I've usually got about £18 unused that I'll spend on texts and internet for a bit, when that runs out I bung on another £10 and get the free texts again.
There's one particular issue with the iPhone 4, in that it uses a micro-SIM card. As far as I know no other phone uses that type of SIM, therefore mobile providers know it's for an iPhone and hence will charge extra for it!
I'm on a 30 day rolling contract which suits me fine. I might go on another fixed contract when my phone dies but I'll just worry about that when the time comes. Especially seeing as we recently sold most of our old mobiles phones on Mazuma mobile. The ones we didn't manage to sell must be well over 10 years old now. :s
Nokia dropped the ball a couple of years ago and have never really picked it back up properly. The N8 seems to review well in terms of the hardware, but the OS seems to let it down a little. I think the WP7 Nokia's will be cracking phones tbh. I think they should have gone Android as well but if they can make WP7 work well it'll be good.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
It's certainly my intention to hold onto my phone for the whole of this year and well into 2012. And then see what Apple comes up with in terms of the iPhone 6 (or whatever the one after the next one will be)
And I don't mean that I will just buy an iPhone 6 - I may well do, however I'll make a choice based on what's on the market at the time, as I expect NokiaWP7 will be established by that point and Android etc will have evolved. However unlike previously the apps situation will likely be a strong pull for me to stay with Apple, the likes of 59p games doesn't matter so much, however when you've got the likes of TomTom £60ish and Viewranger - £200, then you have to think long and hard about switching. Not to mention other things you have such as chargers, windscreen mounts etc.
I've always found so far that phones go in 2 year cycles, i.e. a year after you get your phone the others on the market will only be a slight improvement, but after 2 years the improvement will be massive.
Having said that, I tend to be quite hard on my phones, as they spend most of their time in my pocket, getting scratched etc, and they end up in the shower room at work etc, so tend to get wet (no matter how much I try to avoid it), they are tending to be going wrong after a years use anyway!
My phones always tend to look really good :p I carry my Omnia 7 with me everywhere but the screen is completely unscratched and there's the tiniest of dents in the side. I have a strict policy of always keeping my phone in my top pocket away from keys and so on. I should buy a screen protector for it but in the 5 or so months I've had it it's not been necessary! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
After my N96 got scratched so much you could hardly see the screen any more I made it a strict policy for me to keep my phone in my left pocket and my keys in my right at all times! Still, it doesn't always work out that way!Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
When I'm working I always keep my phone in my shirt pocket and have nothing else in it. When I'm out I keep it in my left pocket and have keys in the right one, no exceptions! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
I didnt realise phone and keys needed so much order. I have handbag with multiple pockets for all manner of junk. :D Thinking about it, the pocket thing is most probably a better solution. :p
Well a handbag is probably better as it's less of a confined space than a trouser pocket. But I ain't carrying no handbag :pQuote:
Originally Posted by GridGirl
Mark, I do believe the correct term for you would be to carry a Manbag. ;) Alas, I find the bigger the bag the more junk I tend to carry round. You men have it so easy when all you need to worry about is two pockets. :p
It's a well-known law of the universe that crap expands to fill the space allocated to it!
Aye! You just have to look in the boot of my car for evidence of that :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Dave B
I know I should :pQuote:
Originally Posted by henners88
Agreed 100%. I played around with an iPad 2 at a mall, and I don't get what the big deal is. It's nothing but a compact snazzy toy or an iPhone on steroids. And for that money, one can get a KICK-ASS laptop which would do way much more and wipe the floor with the iPad 2 when it comes to running certain applications or games. For the line of work I am in, iPad would pretty much be useless compared to a laptop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valve Bounce
The price still shocks me though. But then again, it's typical Apple crap, you pay double and get substantially less in return. Just look at their Macbook line. Sony also has these weird ballooned prices for their Vaio line. I just don't understand what one can get extra by paying $400 more for the exact same spec as an Acer or a Dell.
Maybe we should have a separate thread for phones, as distinct from iPads, Androids and netbooks and laptops.
At last, a sensible answer to my question. I'm just waiting for the next lot of laptops to go onto the counter at Costco. Also, Hardly Normal is offering 40% off their laptops and nothing to pay until next year, but I prefer Costco.Quote:
Originally Posted by X-ecutioner
Valve, you previously did get sensible answers to your question. The only thing is that no one agreed with your opinion to such an extent until X-ecutioner replied to the thread.
Oh and can you please stop talking about Costco. Every post I read from you makes me want a Costco slice of pizza and frozen yoghurt. :D
Well, we just bought a Queen sized sheet set: 2 sheets and pillow cases, 600 count Egyptian cotton for less than aud$50. Original price was $246 on the tag. Now, I just have to wait until next Jamuary to buy my laptop.Quote:
Originally Posted by GridGirl
I like my obligatory £1.50 hotdog and postmix coke and browsing the tyres.Quote:
Originally Posted by GridGirl
I just thought I'd bump this thread again. I was in Costco last week, and they had net books down to aud$330, while a laptop with an i7 CPU is now under $1000.
Yeah! Daniel, I also browse the tyres because when mine have to be replaced (hopefully they will last another 12 months), Costco has great prices on Michelins.
Well after 5/6 Nokia phones, I’ve finally ‘abandoned’ them. Got a free upgrade to a HTC Desire S, it’s like night and day comparing Symbian and Android. Well pleased with it, and with lots of good, free apps available.
While I appreciate the i-Phone 4 is the market leader, I simply couldn’t justify it’s price, and as ever with Apple – it’s well overpriced.
Same here, I had 5/6 Nokia's too - 5/6 because I had two N73's! And I think most people have reached the same conclusion, than Symbian was just too old to be an effective smartphone platform any more. It was good for it's day but typically Nokia failed to capitalise on it. Symbian was one of the first to allow third party apps to run, but the process of adding them was difficult so the majority of people didn't do it - and didn't know about it!
My wife was in a similar situation, had bought Nokia's for years but when her latest one stopped working she decided to get an iPhone 3GS instead. She wasn't really bothered about having an iPhone as such, but as I had an iPhone her having one too makes sense.
In any case, Symbian is now effectively dead as a smartphone platform, the only problem being they should have killed it about 3 years ago!
Symbian was a great OS, but Nokia made it almost impossible to find any software or install it.
As an example, when I had an E71 and wanted to install Maps, I had to register with the Nokia website, download a map to my PC, install the installer software (!), connect a cable, then finally install the map to my phone.
On Android I go to Market, click "install" and wait about 10 seconds.
Android rocks :D
But it's based on Linux, so Daniel please use Windoze Mobile :p :
That's the thing, I can understand why people don't like Windows Phone 7 phones even though I think they're great. But lots of Apple people are confused when someone says that they don't like Apple stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
tOdy, I'd not Windows Mobile, it's Windows Phone :p
MS do like their ambiguous titling! Should have called it Bing Mobile :p
I read on The Register that MS are building a Apple/Andriod to Windows Phone conversion kit for apps so make it easier for developers to port their offerings from the other platforms.
There has yet to be any significant market penetration in that regard however, most apps seem to be developed for iPhone and Android with Windows just getting the third party rip off versions! This isn't surprising of course since it hasn't been out too long and will quite possibly change once Nokia starts pushing the handsets.
It's interesting that Microsoft always seems to be behind the curve these days, they were with internet, with games consoles, in some cases they've come back very strongly, such as with the XBox or Internet Explorer, or not so strongly as with Bing. It'll be interesting to see how windows mobile pans out, and if it will tempt me away from the iPhone 6 ;)
Bing is good enough, but googling is just such an ingrained behaviour.
WP7 will take off when Nokia start launching handsets.
I have no issues with apps tbh. I find most apps for most phones a bit rubbish and or redundant anyway
True, it's the same with software on any platform, 99% of it is going to be tat! But I still say that WP is not yet a default choice for developers, the way iOS and Android (in that order) is at the moment. MS is seeking to change that, and good luck to them!Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
One advantage Apple has over Android handsets is that it's very easy, with Apple you have a choice of one phone (in different memory sizes) and that's it. With Android there are a great number of choices, if you want to put in the time to research this is great, but a great many people don't, they just want a phone.
PS Daniel, have you ever used an iPhone or Android device? How does Windows compare?
I don't like the layout for some reason, I even stopped using multimap.com when it got taken over. I suppose that using Google for years and the fact that google has become a verb means that it's always a first choice. My parents use ask or yahoo and it drives me mad because you just get a screen filled with adverts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Multimap is good because it will give you Ordnance Survey maps in a draggable format, which no other site does - even the Ordanance Survey site! It may sound nit-picky but for a long time I didn't like the Microsoft mapping (didn't they used to have it under the autoroute brand?) because it changed the colours of the roads to fit the American style mapping. They've fixed that now and motorways are in their familiar blue, A roads in green etc.
I've used an iPhone a few times and the same with android. They're not bad phones, I think moat smartphones are decent. The thing is the cost of the iPhone, like henners said, it's simply not worth what they charge. I could afford an iPhone no problem, I just object to spending that much more just for some magic. Android phones are decent too, I just preferred the wp7 interface.
If you're hiding in a ditch in Rothbury?Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
There's lots of ditches in Rothbury - as well as a very good Rally stage........Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
As for the cost of phones - I really would have liked an i-Phone4 - purely for ease of use, I already have an i-Pod nano and an i-Pod Touch. So it seemed like a sensible decision to get one - all my apps/ music could be synched with no problem. However, as I've already said - I'm not paying that money - upwards of £200 to just buy it, then £25-30 per month contract... :eek: A free upgrade to a HTC Desire S was far more sensible - and so far I'm well pleased with it.
However, you have to hand it to Apple......they know how to market a product..
My wife was of the same view, £200 then £30 per month was too much. So instead of getting the iPhone 4 she got an iPhone 3GS which was just £30 a month and no upfront fee. Having not used one before, only my iPhone 4 I've been quite impressed that despite it's lower resolution display etc it performs just as my much more expensive version does!Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC