RT is not reliable??? ;) Is it because you expect Grönholm to replace Atkinson for '09?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
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RT is not reliable??? ;) Is it because you expect Grönholm to replace Atkinson for '09?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
i just think its strange they skipped him from the italian rally show.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeD
Next year, Conrad Rautenbach will continue for sure in a top WRC car/team
Most likely to be Citroen.
Source: the guy who sits (sat) next to him...
Where, in the bus?Quote:
Originally Posted by m4rk
...David Senior? :p
Oh, no. No, nononono. FIAT is the first one to hit troubles in Europe. Today the american car labour unions declined the pay cuts and therefore I expect both GM and Ford to go bankcrupt. (way to bo btw) FIAT unfortunately is one of the smallest in Europe and it won't see the end of this recession if it is left alone. Ferrari will, FIAT no. The CEO of Fiat told this himself, FIAT is too small to survive by it's own.Quote:
Originally Posted by Helstar
Ye ye whatever ... http://www.motorsportforums.com/foru...s/rolleyes.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by MikeD
Which are all his sponsors and who is going to leave him ? Name them please http://www.motorsportforums.com/foru...ons/icon11.gif ...Quote:
Don't get me wrong. I hope Galli gets a seat, because I actually like him and his driving style, but facts are that he had a very hard time securing these sponsors for the 2008 season. That's not going to be any easier for 2009, so I very much doubt he will be able to raise that kind of cash again. But like I said, I hope I am proved wrong.
Woodeye: If you'd live in Italy you'd know also why FIAT survived the huge big crisis of a couple of years ago. They can't die ...
Cosa Nostra? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Helstar
Nope, the government ! ;PQuote:
Originally Posted by Koz
We might get big news from Subaru tomorrow... :(
Ok, is it Subaru backing off from the WRC now? Or just Bosse not driving next year?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarno
First one.
How do you know?
Well I don't, just a rumour, but you've read the news right?
I´ve already lighten up a candle in memory of the series, a few years late yes but still. Hopefully it will be back alive in a new form in 2010.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72483
Says enough I think...Quote:
Subaru's budget for next season is reportedly being trimmed by parent company Fuji Heavy Industries and the cash for Gronholm is thought to be coming from Prodrive itself.
strange not ?.. Why Sub has annouced 4 days ago, new car S15 for 2009 beginning... ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarno
Yesterday was yesterday, today is today. Things happen fast.
Courtesy of mursuka80 at AtlasF1:
http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/ralli/uut...2008/12/764726
I can't read Finnish but I'm told it doesn't look good.
yes.. i have just read that now... very strange... It will be dramatic...Quote:
Originally Posted by santori
try this link for translate finnish => english ...Quote:
Originally Posted by santori
http://www.lexilogos.com/traduction_multilingue.htm
so the english translate : http://translate.google.com/translat...-8&sl=fi&tl=en ;)
Ah, thanks. Lexilogos looks good.
I've been using Babel Fish which doesn't have Finnish.
First Suzuki, now Subaru... I remember a discussion on this forum about WRC going to bust with everyone leaving, which would mean a fresh start from zero. Well, the possibility of seeing this to happen is increasing every day...
There have been a lot of hopes for 2010 due to new rules as it is expected we could see more manufacturers involved by then, but I'm personally not sure at all. More than a year still to go and due to recession car makers may well abandon their WRC-plans, so we may not get a good competitive series even in 2010 with S2000...
no offense but that translation sucks...
I´ll give it a go then:
"According to the information of Tulosruutu (the sports show) Subaru team is about to leave the WRC.
.......
A source close to the team says the team will announce their withdrawal on Tuesday. On Monday Subaru was still saying they would take part in the opening round of the 2009 season in Rally Ireland.
....
"
and the rest is blaablaa. There.
Ford - Citroen cup? pretty pathetic, but thats how its been for some years already. Oh hell....
And if I say that Ford and Citroen are going to quit WRC next friday, does that mean it's true?
In these days everything is possible, so don't write off anything. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by JRodrigues
If what has been said about Subaru withdrawing is true then it will be a sad sad day :(
Im a huge Subaru fan and to me they, along with Prodrive and their employees, have had quite a significant influence on my life.
But if does go ahead only to leave Citreon and Ford then perhpas the IRC will become the pinacle of rallying in the world.
We won´t have to wait too long to find out if this rumour stands. But with the current economics sh#t going down, I would be more surprised if Subbie wouldn´t announce their retirement.
Very good news for Wilson and Rautenbach :p Top8 in every rally 2009?
At least Subaru sales in Estonia are up 333 % this year :) Other manufacturers (except) Škoda have seen major decline ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Miika
C-mon Subaru, stay! Subaru and rallying are a perfect match!
If Citroen and Ford leave too, then Wilson and Rautenbach may well start fighting for wins as they seem to be the few ones, who can find enough funding. :p :Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
Petter and Chris without a drive.Very sad indeed.
No, Henning has also funding and he is faster...Quote:
Originally Posted by jens
The 'five year plan' might work afterall!Quote:
Originally Posted by jens
Maybe next year we can see Mitsubishi in top eight :)
Something is definitely brewing. Two different sources here in Norway, with close links to someone around Petter, tells me Petter is informed Subaru is closing down the WRC team. Announcements tomorrow - and it will be a shock decision, says same sources.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cloverleaf
Hard to believe...
Hard to believe, since Subaru sales and shares are up this year!!
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...JvI&refer=asia