Re: 2014 Pre-Season Testing
Still a long way to go for them, at least RB/Vettel got some running this morning but It would take a brave man to bet on them even being able to finish the 1st race.
Hard to read Ferrari are close but the engines are looking second best at this stage, so it's looking more and more like it will be a Mercedes engined car that wins in OZ... but which one? Even Mercedes themselves, despite their high testing millage, aren't without their issues either and have only just gone out for the first time today after a gearbox issue.
Can someone tell me about Qualy engine settings for the new cars... Not that they'd want to until reliability has improved but can they turn them right up for qualy as per the previous era turbo cars?.. or is there a max fuel flow rate or similar handicap?
Will qualy likely be a non event in OZ due to the importance of simply making it to the end of the race?
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So finally this year we might see, how really good Vettel is ;)
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:stareup: I know the answer to that query. He will start the season in uncharacteristically poor form. His driving, and his car will start gradually improving, and when Red Bull have all their issues sorted out, once again he'll be king-shit behind the wheel. :andrea:
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Fastest Times for each Driver over both Bahrain Tests
1. Felipe Massa, Williams, 1m 33.258s,
2. Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes, 1m 33.278s, +0.020
3. Nico Rosberg, Mercedes, 1m 33.283s, +0.025
4. Valtteri Bottas, Williams, 1m 33.987s, +0.729
5. Fernando Alonso, Ferrari, 1m 34.280s, +1.022
6. Kevin Magnussen, McLaren, 1m 34.910s, +1.652
7. Jenson Button, McLaren, 1m 34.957s, +1.699
8. Sergio Perez, Force India, 1m 35.290s, +2.032
9. Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari, 1m 35.426s, +2.168
10. Nico Hulkenberg, Force India, 1m 35.577s, +2.319
11. Jean-Eric Vergne, Toro Rosso, 1m 35.701s, +2.443
12. Daniel Ricciardo, Red Bull, 1m 35.743s, +2.485
13. Daniil Kvyat, Toro Rosso, 1m 36.113s, +2.855
14. Adrian Sutil, Sauber, 1m 36.467s, +3.209
15. Max Chilton, Marussia, 1m 36.835s, +3.577
16. Jules Bianchi, Marussia, 1m 37.087s, +3.829
17. Esteban Gutierrez, Sauber, 1m 37.180s, +3.922
18. Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, 1m 37.468s, +4.210
19. Marcus Ericsson, Caterham, 1m 38.083s, +4.835
20. Kamui Kobayashi, Caterham, 1m 38.391s, +5.133
21. Pastor Maldonado, Lotus, 1m 38.707s, +5.451
22. Romain Grosjean, Lotus, 1m 39.302s, +6.044
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That would be quite a fun Grid for the Australian GP wouldn't it.
Felipe Baby
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http://i33.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0302/...10167f6eea.jpg
I realize this grab is not very clear, but the lower number in the red box says that Fred hit 340 kph at Bahrain of all places.
Over 211 mph, what will they reach at Monza? I read (can't find the link) that Ted Kravitz revealed a conversation he had with Nico Rosberg, in which Rosberg stated that 230mph (370kph) would be possible in China. :eek:
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Originally Posted by pino
So finally this year we might see, how really good Vettel is ;)
Well, it is a bit difficult to see if your car barely gets out of the pitlane so-to-speak...
But that's what Red Bull's tests have been all about. Vettel must be wondering if he can even complete qualifying laps at Melbourne! Because RBR has run out of testing opportunities now and just have to hope some factory tweaks during the next couple of weeks actually make the car run properly!
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Originally Posted by steveaki13
That would be quite a fun Grid for the Australian GP wouldn't it.
Felipe Baby
If that was the starting grid, without Seb, Kimi, and, Hulk ahead on the grid, Fred would be in p2 by the second turn, and have the Boss for the lead by the end of lap 2 :dork: ;)
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Originally Posted by Tazio
:stareup: I know the answer to that query. He will start the season in uncharacteristically poor form. His driving, and his car will start gradually improving, and when Red Bull have all their issues sorted out, once again he'll be king-shit behind the wheel. :andrea:
"Uncharacteristically poor form" as in parking the car in flames after a couple of laps.:)
Also the bad news for RBR is that if you can hardly drive any laps as it has been in winter testing, you can't really analyze the car. Which means Red Bull's setups may be well off in the early races, which means they are far from maximizing car's potential and the setups may not be to Vettel's liking, which means he struggles. This even leaving aside all reliability issues! It doesn't mean Vettel is bad like some would like to believe then, but it just reflects on the poor preparation of the team in general. Without preparation you can't perform well.
Long-term outlooks? Largely depends on how much down on power Renault really is, because it is hard to say anything about the horsepower numbers thrown around. However, you'd think at least Red Bull's chassis should be fast, even if a bit (understatement!) unreliable.
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Originally Posted by jens
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Originally Posted by Tazio
:stareup: I know the answer to that query. He will start the season in uncharacteristically poor form. His driving, and his car will start gradually improving, and when Red Bull have all their issues sorted out, once again he'll be king-shit behind the wheel. :andrea:
"Uncharacteristically poor form" as in parking the car in flames after a couple of laps.:)
Also the bad news for RBR is that if you can hardly drive any laps as it has been in winter testing, you can't really analyze the car. Which means Red Bull's setups may be well off in the early races, which means they are far from maximizing car's potential and the setups may not be to Vettel's liking, which means he struggles. This even leaving aside all reliability issues! It doesn't mean Vettel is bad like some would like to believe then, but it just reflects on the poor preparation of the team in general. Without preparation you can't perform well.
Long-term outlooks? Largely depends on how much down on power Renault really is, because it is hard to say anything about the horsepower numbers thrown around. However, you'd think at least Red Bull's chassis should be fast, even if a bit (understatement!) unreliable.
That's what I said! :laugh: ;)
