Homophobia

Now that there seems to be a little lull in the discussion, I thought I'd address this post.. I hope you won't mind this temporary digression.

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

That we appear to be the only species who have sex recreationally, because it is pleasurable.

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This is by no means true. Let me tell you about a little fellow called the bonobo ape. ;)

http://primategallery.files.wordpres.../bonobo_eg.jpg

From Wikipedia - "Sexual intercourse plays a major role in bonobo society, being used as what some scientists perceive as a greeting, a means of forming social bonds, a means of conflict resolution, and postconflict reconciliation. Bonobos are the only nonhuman animal to have been observed engaging in all of the following sexual activities: face-to-face genital sex, tongue kissing, and oral sex."

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Animals reproduce instictively, and yet population of animals appears to be naturally controlled.

It is only the 'superior' species - i.e. us, that seem unable to control ourselves.

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Might it not be more to do with the fact that all animals are hunted - not least by humans - except humans?

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Originally Posted by ioan

Any chance you could clarify? I can't really get the point you are trying to make.

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At 17:39 you said that words also fail you. At 17:46 you seem to have found some. Was it really that hard to figure out?

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Originally Posted by EuroTroll

Now that there seems to be a little lull in the discussion, I thought I'd address this post.. I hope you won't mind this temporary digression.



This is by no means true. Let me tell you about a little fellow called the bonobo ape. ;)

http://primategallery.files.wordpres.../bonobo_eg.jpg

From Wikipedia - "Sexual intercourse plays a major role in bonobo society, being used as what some scientists perceive as a greeting, a means of forming social bonds, a means of conflict resolution, and postconflict reconciliation. Bonobos are the only nonhuman animal to have been observed engaging in all of the following sexual activities: face-to-face genital sex, tongue kissing, and oral sex."



Might it not be more to do with the fact that all animals are hunted - not least by humans - except humans?

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Gosh, what happened before humans evolved then? Was there a population explosion that led to a global collapse?

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Gosh, what happened before humans evolved then? Was there a population explosion that led to a global collapse?

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Before humans evolved, there was no species that was so "above" nature. Populations were kept in check by hunting and/or limited food resources. We have overcome both.

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Originally Posted by EuroTroll

We have overcome both.

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And look at us now.........

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

And look at us now.........

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I think we've done pretty well so far. :) Here we are, happy as pigs in ****, discussing a topic that is not a matter of life and death. Luxury! ;)

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Originally Posted by EuroTroll

I think we've done pretty well so far. :) Here we are, happy as pigs in ****, discussing a topic that is not a matter of life and death. Luxury! ;)

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Good way to past the time whilst ignoring our dying planet really... ;)

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Originally Posted by EuroTroll

I think we've done pretty well so far. :) Here we are, happy as pigs in ****, discussing a topic that is not a matter of life and death. Luxury! ;)

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Meanwhile, we continue the destruction of rainforests, discard thousands of tonnes of misshaped food every week despite millions in third world countries remain malnurished - oh yes, aren't we the superior species?

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Originally Posted by Sprocket

Good way to past the time whilst ignoring our dying planet really... ;)

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Plenty of miles left in the old girl yet! ;) Unless we blow it up, of course.. :erm:

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Meanwhile, we continue the destruction of rainforests, discard thousands of tonnes of misshaped food every week despite millions in third world countries remain malnurished - oh yes, aren't we the superior species?

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Yes, we are. Just not perfect!