That's not quite fair. BDunnell's approach is very passionate as he feels it is unfair that a group of people, a group that he is part of, does not have the same opportunities as everyone else in this Country. I think I would feel quite strongly if it was me in that situation and nowhere have I seen him try to ram his 'gayness' in anyones face.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Ben
About his aggressive posting and insults, that is nothing to do with sexuality either. If you read any of the threads he gets worked up about, you will see he acts identically on them as he has on here so I'm afraid that's just hs posting style and as I'm normally on the receiving end of hs posts, I know how frustrating it becomes.
I'm not going to quote all the posts I want to respond to so will just address a couple of points.
There should be no reason whatsoever why a Gay or Lesbian couple cannot raise an adopted child in a Loving and well rounded environment. I don't think there is any evidence that a child is any more likely to be physically, sexually or emotionally abused in a Homosexual or Hetrosexual family. Issues such as Bullying are an everyday fact of life but Education and a good School working in partnership with Parents should deal with this. If we let Bullying dictate life we've failed and not just Children of a same sex couple but Children of Ethnic Minorities, short kids, tall kids, spotty ones, Jewish children and any other excuse that some bully can think of to intimidate his peers.
Having worked with Children in the past, I can tell you that I would rather a Child in care went to a laving and stable same sex couple than bouncing around the car crash that is Residential Childrens Homes.
I can also appreciate the point a couple of people have made about it not feeling right for same sex couples to be Married in Church. It's perfectly natural when you have been told all your life by spiritul Leaders holding positions of power that this is Unholy, Unnatural and against morality but in actual fact, is it? That's what they said about Women becomming Priests. All the gumph about Bras in the Vestry and PMT sermons every 4 weeks didn't really happen, did it? Now, Women are accepted and doing as good a job as their male colleagues aren't they. I am sure if you are on your death bed, confessing your sins and making peace before you pass away, you wouldn't give a toss if your priest had a dick or boobs.
A point was also made about Marriage in Church being a joining of a Man and a Woman for the purpose of procreation. This arguement has some merit for people with deep religious conviction and fundementally why I think Legislation shouldn't be imposed in this case. However, how much weight does this arguement carry? Is this the sole reason people get married? I suggest there are many other reasons and many couples that married in Church have no intention of having Children. Should they be excluded as well? Following on from that, if anyone has those views, then they must also subscribe to the passage of the old testament it comes from and support Murder, Infanticied, Discrimination of Females and the Disabled and Torture. Please reread my post on Livictus here>> http://www.motorsportforums.com/chit...ml#post1090008. It also means you must ignore the words of St Paul which are acknowledged to be the words of Christ and contradict these views.
Hundreds of religious Laws have been scrapped, quite rightly, because they are outdated or purely hatefull. Half the 10 Commandments are ignored these days or contradicted in the Bible and those were supposed to come from God himself :rolleyes: I see this one being no different.
So, what would happen if a Gay or Lesbian couple got married in Church. I suspect nothing and in 5 years, we would wonder what all the fuss was about.
