There was never an agenda to entertain the audience.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
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There was never an agenda to entertain the audience.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
Yes, there wasn't but it is normal to try to appeal to the fans. I really can't say why people don't understand it. F1 is trying to survive in a world in which there are many entertainments and you need to fight for your survival.
If that was the case then would F1 have been in Las Vegas?Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
Yes, many a sport has gone down that route and upset the purists. Take away the purity you take away the soul and what you have left is a gimmick.Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
What has Las Vegas got to do with it?Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
In the early '80s was there an agenda to spice up the show because F1 is boring? Was there an agenda or an obsession for more overtaking? Was there a need for DRS? Comedy tyres?
Entertainment.Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
Talk is cheap, please give me an examples. I repeat - F1 must survive in a highly competitive media environment, and for this, it must entertain the majority of its fans. If it upsets some purists, so be it. Purists always reject everything new. A few years ago it was "no overtaking, so bad", now it is "too much overtaking" and the whining continues even after the Monaco GP in which the cars were able to survive on one stop strategy.Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
As in glitz and glamour.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
Did they go to Vegas because there would be numerous overtaking opportunities? Allow an underdog to win?
The unpredictability was mainly due to the evolution of technology. One would consider Pirelli's tyres as a retro-grade.
Snooker - Power Snooker, against the clock; shortened frames in the World Championship.Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
Cricket - 20/20 cricket.
Make F1 too unpredictable it cheapens the sport and F1 will no longer be the pinnacle. Who would care about genuine pace? Might as well give the drivers the same cars but then why would a team like Ferrari or even Williams feel the need to exist?
Make F1 too unpredictable it cheapens the sport and F1 will no longer be the pinnacle. Who would care about genuine pace? Might as well give the drivers the same cars but then why would a team like Ferrari or even Williams feel the need to exist?[/QUOTE]
Yes, but F1 is not too unpredictable. Unpredictable yes, too unpredictable no. Let's see the championship - the best drivers lead, same with the constructors. Let's see the teams who have won the races - McLaren, Red Bull and Ferrari - the big three in recent years, Mercedes, which were expected to win sooner or later, and Williams, which are the third most successful team in history. I think that we have the right balance between show and sport. So the best guys still lead, but there is a chance for an underdog and a good show. What you want, wedge, is completely pure sport. What you want is a DTM for open-wheelers. And I think that this is the worst, which could happen to F1.
You said that "There was never an agenda to entertain the audience" and yet F1 was more than willing to go to the entertainment capital of the States to entertain.Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
The idea that F1 has only recently become concerned about "entertainment" is misleading IMHO. Entertainment has been a part of the sport since races were first organised for paying spectators.
The current rules don't "allow" an underdog to win. For one thing the rules are the same for everyone, unlike the past when we have seen one team with bespoke tyres, or the time when Goodyear provided special qualifying tyres to a select few teams.
But we're going over the same ground again and again. Our views differ. C'est la vie.
I really don't like how some people on forums disparagingly to formula 1's new "upredictability" and the tire lottery. Both of these labels are undeserved. This year teams have to work harder to extract good pace from their cars. Also, some of the usual predictability was gone because at times some of the top teams and drivers have either shown a bad form, or they suffered from mechanical problems, such as gear box changes, or other penalties. I don't think it was due to some lottery that we have seen some unusually good speed from some teams. Everything we have seen this year so far has an explanation IMO. Another thing that you should remember is that the performance differentials between cars have been reduced considerably. Engine development has been frozen and engines have been "equalized" more than once. The aero rules put a lot of constraints on what teams can do. Overall this results in speeds that are very close to each other. As soon as the front running driver/car/team have made a mistake, they will be within a striking distance from those coming from behind.
The only thing I really don't like this year is that teams are forced to save tires during qualification. This does really mess up the results, and leaves fans disappointed when they see cars parked in a garage during qualification stages.