4 degrees of camber

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Originally Posted by ioan

You're way of judging intelligence recommends you for a footy commentator position, or alternatively you could take Eddie Jordan's place in the BBC team! :rotflmao:
You asked for it, so don't come crying. :p

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In fairness to Eddie Jordan I think that this year he has developed as a pundit quite dramatically and has now found his niche. I quite like him.

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Originally Posted by The Black Knight

And what would you know about what a team would and wouldn't hire?

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Why is Adrian Newey regarded as a genius?

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Originally Posted by The Black Knight

There is no problem in pushing the limits reliability wise... not when it comes to safety. If RBR had reason to doubt Pirelli's camber angle suggestion then fair enough. Clearly they were wrong if they did. One should never put your drivers lives at unnecessary risk. Maybe that's why RBR are in the lead of the championship though. They have taken more risks than anyone else and it has paid off, except this time they pushed it to the point of where they had reason to believe they may have pushed it too far.

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Pushing the limits leads to greater risk and therefore safety.

In NASCAR, teams will sometimes go beyond Goodyear's recommendations, pop a tyre and slam their driver into a concrete wall and nobody calls those teams being dangerous and foolhardy.

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Originally Posted by The Black Knight

In fairness to Eddie Jordan I think that this year he has developed as a pundit quite dramatically and has now found his niche. I quite like him.

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A lot of talk from some people. Rbr will cope this race and probably even win this race.

Pirelli to FIA: Mommy these bad kids are not listening to me! ;(

Pirelli ready to ask FIA to enforce camber restrictions at Monza - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com

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Originally Posted by henners88

I really don't understand your problem with Pirelli at all??? :confused:

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I don't think that even ioan understands his problem with Pirelli. Declaring Pirelli to be the FIA's children, eludes to a pretty warped understanding of the purpose rubber serves even in a domestic sense :p :

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Originally Posted by ioan

Pirelli to FIA: Mommy these bad kids are not listening to me! ;(

Pirelli ready to ask FIA to enforce camber restrictions at Monza - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com

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While you do have a point to a certain degree here , about the whiny tone of some of the articles about this , it seems to me that Hembery and his company went through an un-necessary scare at the last GP .

They never got the chance to run Spa before the race in the dry , so when things started looking like they might have serious delamination issues , they started imagining a situation like the Indy six car race .
Panic ensued , as they had assumed all had adhered to the recommendations .

And , just like you or I , when one gets the shatner scared out of them , we tend to get a little hot under the collar .

They were looking at a Michelin-esque disaster , and thought the reputation of the company was seriously at risk .



Do you take issue at all with the fact that Pirelli issues recommendations as to the maximum degree of camber ?

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Originally Posted by henners88

I really don't understand your problem with Pirelli at all??? :confused:

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His stance on Pirelli does make ioan out to be a rather peculiar little man indeed...

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

They never got the chance to run Spa before the race in the dry , so when things started looking like they might have serious delamination issues , they started imagining a situation like the Indy six car race .
Panic ensued , as they had assumed all had adhered to the recommendations .

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Just to clarify Bagwan, I know what you mean but I don't want you misquoted, Pirelli panicked until they realised that RBR wasn't following their recommendations but initially suggested to Pirelli they were.

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Originally Posted by The Black Knight

I don't think that even ioan understands his problem with Pirelli. Declaring Pirelli to be the FIA's children, eludes to a pretty warped understanding of the purpose rubber serves even in a domestic sense :p :

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Nope, the problem is that a driver has to take care of his tires over a whole race stint.

Its that simple.