Do you rate Ogier so slow? If he wouldn't have slowed down before the puncture of Loeb, he would have clearly gone 1st, since Loeb was "cruising".Quote:
Originally Posted by Back-N-Black
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Do you rate Ogier so slow? If he wouldn't have slowed down before the puncture of Loeb, he would have clearly gone 1st, since Loeb was "cruising".Quote:
Originally Posted by Back-N-Black
What you describe is the situation that has established only after the previous contract was signed (July 2010). Which is quite a significant point to consider.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
If looking back; It's a clear difference from the priority of Ogier this season vs Sordo, or earlier "status" of Ogier. Sordo was always put in position to sweep for Loeb in any leg, and same with Ogier. While this season Ogier is allowed to pull tactics to slot behind Loeb and make the driver leading in points sweep for him.
This type of game is for sure not what Loeb expected when signing earlier non-priority contracts. He always had a sweeper and full team support. Although he may have allowed for it in his contract, he surely did not foresee Quesnel would turn on him like a rat, after all Seb has brought the team. So you can be sure his current contract will protect him against the latest Quesnel agenda in the future. At a minimum it will be a 50/50 share of who takes the sweeping positions.
Of course this may be simpler if the new starting rules are effected, however that can not be guaranteed, so the contract will also cover the possibility of alternative running orders.
There are many comments from the top indicating that current agreement is different from before; World Rally Championship - News - Gales: Loeb staying is hugely significant
"We did a lot of things to make him stay, to make the association last longer. ... We will make sure he feels at ease in the future."
The exact terms one can speculate, but that they protect Loeb more than before, and more than Ogier, looks obvious. And it's Quesnel who can thank himself for it.
This is the first year citroen have ever given equal status to their drivers. In the past, Loeb has always been number one in the team, always had the number 2 drivers sweep for him etc. And if the number two driver diddnt like it, they could walk. And leave the most successful team in the WRC. And its not as if they have a lot of other teams to go to is it:-) Nothing has changed with the results however, this time Loeb uses his experience to come out on top, something which ogier is currently lacking.Quote:
Originally Posted by bretddog
I still havent seen many comments on loeb staying from quesnel. Is he bitter about loebs descision or something?
i really need to move into the star trek universe...is it that fun to make things up than facing the facts ???? I do not remember many rallies in which sordo was ahead of Loeb on gravel to sweep....
i guess the infromation about all these imaginary things comes from the same source that suggested that Loeb blocked Solberg from the official citroen team...
oh well...
That's your problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Once in a while you can try to shut up when proven wrong, I'm not expecting you ever able to admit a defeat.
Did you expect any less :p :
Has anyone heard any comments from Quesnel about Loebs new contract? It would be interesting to hear his response.
enlighten me thenQuote:
Originally Posted by bretddog
from a quick search Sordo never run in front of Loeb last year intentionally..... only in 1 event (at the end of the season) Loeb was 1 spot belowe sordo...all the other times was either infront or way below due to the fact he cleared the roads....
Enjoy your star trek universe.
i am not always right but i am never wrong...sorry to dissapoint.
Epic N.O.T :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Check 2009, 4 lose gravel rallies, Sordo sweeps at least one leg, either day 2 or 3. Check 2010, Ogier sweeps at least one leg, 2 or 3, of 4 or 5 rallies. Whoever was the most appropriate Citroen to sweep, Loeb usually had one in front whenever possible. You don't need to be just 1 position in front to be the sweeper, be serious.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T