Team orders at Ferrari

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Originally Posted by ojciec dyrektor

As a big Michael "Master of Team Orders" Schumacher fan, You don't sound convincing. ;p

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maybe ioan has finally seen the light :laugh:

Mark, anything interesting that Alonso is saying?

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Originally Posted by Easy Drifter

Whatever else happens Smedley will be gone from Ferarri at the end of the year if not before.
If Massa goes I do not think Alonso will want (allow) Webber as a teamate or Kubica either. He will want (demand) someone who will obey orders and stay slower than him.

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That leave Fisichella or possibly Sutil (FI still owes ferrari, right)?

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Originally Posted by Hawkmoon

I feel sorry for Massa too. I want a Ferrari 1-2. But more than that I want Ferrari world championship. Alonso can do that this year, Massa can't.

All this righteous indignation is misplaced, in my opinion.

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I feel sorry for your Ferrari blindness.

WT

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Originally Posted by DazzlaF1

Smedley is arguably the man in the most difficult position, he gave the "coded" messages to Massa and in his conversations with him he seemed genuinely upset. Could it have been Domenicali (or even di Montezemolo) giving orders to Smedley to pass on to Massa, taking advantage of this special relationship they have.

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It's always the race engineer who have to do this.
And the race engineers are the people who have the closest relationship with the drivers.
Imagine you have to tell your best friend to do something you, and he, don't agree with just because the management favors someone else.

$100,000 fine

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Originally Posted by ojciec dyrektor

As a big Michael "Master of Team Orders" Schumacher fan, You don't sound convincing. ;p

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I couldn't care less about what you think. :D

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Originally Posted by Dave Brockman

$100,000 fine

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What? You sure you didn't forget the additional 000 for bringing the sport into disrepute?
This is a joke. They've got a million fine back in 2002.

No. Money buys wins. That's the moral of today's story, children. You can cheat so long as you're rich.

A report is being sent to the World Motorsport Council, but result unchanged... for now.

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Originally Posted by Easy Drifter

Whatever else happens Smedley will be gone from Ferarri at the end of the year if not before.
If Massa goes I do not think Alonso will want (allow) Webber as a teamate or Kubica either. He will want (demand) someone who will obey orders and stay slower than him.

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I hope both Massa and Smedley leave soon, maybe they can attempt to win in Hungary and then give them the finger.

Any team on the grid would sign them without thinking, just imagine the wealth of knowledge Smedley would bring with him.

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Originally Posted by ioan

It's always the race engineer who have to do this.
And the race engineers are the people who have the closest relationship with the drivers.
Imagine you have to tell your best friend to do something you, and he, don't agree with just because the management favors someone else.

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Agreed (again!!). On BBC digital Eddie Jordan has said quite clearly that when he gave team orders at Spa to stop Ralf overtaking Damon he was the one who told Ralf - not expecting the engineer to do the dirty work

Do Ferrari management really think they don't just look like the bunch of cheap liars that they are?

Only Massa and Smedley come out with any credit - exposing the truth and then bowing to the inevitable team-speak

WT