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Originally Posted by F1boat
If anything this move has shown us one thing. Webber is leading the Championship with a team which does not want him to win!!! That's a bloody solid effort!
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lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
If anything this move has shown us one thing. Webber is leading the Championship with a team which does not want him to win!!! That's a bloody solid effort!
that is because of the distortion caused by the telephotos lens...on the other hand, it is well supported by the in-car photo/videos :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Valve Bounce
as to those who refuse to see it, :rotflmao:
The better question is why all the these english speakers hate the germans so much and want el chopper to win a wdc, they are willing to do [whatever]
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Originally Posted by Firstgear
And of course, all that "data" is the stuff sprewed forth from the mouths of Englanders and aussies and fans of the british way of life, not wanting to see another brit, once again, having his pants beat off by some miserable, scrawny little German
So they think how many germans are there and how many of the other....opps that is a lot of sales...opps, let us save some revenue and say "racing incident"
after all, if they really want to dull the chopper, there are more quiet ways
Face it, Damon Hill no like Germans, Aussies no like Germans, Arie no like Germans...........and for them, if the choice for the new WDC comes down to Webber, Button and Hamilton, well, we all know who will get the back of that bus :rolleyes:
Just because I speak English does not mean I can't have a different view to yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by markabilly
Eki blames George Bush.
If you do not understand that you do not read Chit Chat.
Markabilly you so have no idea of what your are talking about. Australia may officially have been part of the brittish empire, but Australians do NOT consider themselfs to be brittish and brits do NOT consider Australians to be brittish.
And Australians have absolutely no problem with Germans, their is absolutely no rivalry their unlike the rivalry between the english and the germans.
Markabilly your talking about stuff that doesn't exist!
The brits and the Aussies have as strong a rivalry as the brits and Germans do, so you clearly know sweet F A of what your talking about man!
Webber wasn't told to move over and let Vettel through, so when Vettel made his move Webber instinctively put the squeeze on. When Vettel got ahead by a nose, he instictively tried to take the line back as any F1 driver with a slight lead will try to do based on the unwritten rules of cut-throat F1 driver creed. Webber slightly at fault for doing a full squeeze (meaning pushing him to the line on the side of the track, not further...though Webber has on occasion gone beyond a full sqeeze and into the force-off zone) on a teammate but that's not the direct cause of the accident, just a factor in the collision; Vettel mostly at fault for moving back over so violently that Webber couldn't react in time. I voted both but I'd put it at, oh, 15% Webber and 85% Vettel.
There's been 2 defining moments in the championship chase so far. They are the radiator fan mistake by Buttons' crew, and this collision. When the season is done we can look back on these two moments and consider how they altered the championship, which now at the moment clearly features all drivers on both McLaren and RedBull teams.
I still think Vettel is mostly at fault but as I said Webber is not completely innocent either. I do agree on one point with Markabilly though, and it is something I saw and believed right from the outset. Webber did ever so slightly nudge his car to the left which did contribute to the incident.
At the end of the day it is a racing incident pure and simple with a long set of circumstances that came together to create the collision.
Was it avoidable? yes.
But we are talking about an erratic overtaker in Vettel and a borderline dirty defender of position in Webber so this outcome was destined to happen.
What to me was telling was the initial team's response. If i was Webber, I would be not to pleased about that. I expect more fireworks before the end of the season.
Q: how do i add markabilly to the ignore list
Go to "user CP" at top of this page, then select the appropriate option.