Will SchM succeed in his comeback?

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Originally Posted by Dzeidzei

Dunno if there are stats ready anywhere, but I dont think MSc has lost many times in quali to his teammate? Does anyone know any better? I think Rubens beat him but only once or twice.

However, Schumi has lost to Nico every time! :)

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According to Autosport, MS has only suffered total defeat (ie all free practise, qualifying and race) once before in his career.

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Originally Posted by henners88

I think Schuey has already succeeded in making a return at 41. Not many drivers of this age would be desirable at such a late age in a top team.. :)

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There, devoid of derogatory nicknames or bluster, is by far the most sensible post in this entire thread. What more is there to say on the subject?

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Originally Posted by F1boat

Well, no need to be aggressive, but yes, I think that statistics prove it. I also have witnessed how the guy drives and in my opinion he is the best ever. I always had the feeling that he is outdoing his car - in the years when he lost to Williams and McLaren, in the years he dominated in Ferrari, always. I was never ever calm when he was against the drivers I supported and I was confident that he can do magic in the times I supported him. Maybe other people felt that way about other drivers in the years before Michael. These things are subjective. But for me, he is the best and the stats IMO are not hurting my opinion either.
And if he really loses to Rosberg this year, which I very much doubt, I think that it will be only because of age - this will prove once and for all the comebacks can never be truly successful. But I believe and hope that he will do his magic again and will beat Rosberg.

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I may not like the guy or his tactics, but there is no disputing that to me he is the greatest F1 driver. His statistics are not just numbers, they are staggering. Yeah he had some dominant cars, but so did other great champs. No matter what one thinks of him, he was and is a superb driver with that unique quality of getting more out of a car than what seems possible.There are huge character flaws and blemishes in his career as well as some cars that i thought were wavering on legality and some other situations that confirmed the worst of the FIArrari pact, but still, it's really no contest IMO

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Originally Posted by truefan72

I may not like the guy or his tactics, but there is no disputing that to me he is the greatest F1 driver. His statistics are not just numbers, they are staggering. Yeah he had some dominant cars, but so did other great champs. No matter what one thinks of him, he was and is a superb driver with that unique quality of getting more out of a car than what seems possible.There are huge character flaws and blemishes in his career as well as some cars that i thought were wavering on legality and some other situations that confirmed the worst of the FIArrari pact, but still, it's really no contest IMO

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Respect for that post, pal.

I don´t doubt he´s great. Saying he´s decent was more of a joke than anything else. However since it´s kind of difficult to compare drivers from different ages (actually it´s not easy to compare the drivers from the same age since it´s pretty difficult to asses how much of one´s performance is due to his equipment) I really resent the use of absolute terms like "the greatest"... I can understand that a group of drivers are "the greatest" but to single out just one out of so many... it doesn´t sound right. I have nothing against the driver with the best "stats"... that would be absolutely correct. I´m convinced that Rosberg would have a much tougher time against the 2004 Schumacher. I´m also convinced that he had it easier than others and that why his stats look so so so good.

When a name is that big, the burden is so heavy that people just can't wait for a couple of grands prix to have a final jugdment on his comeback... :) I'm not a Schumi fanatic, but he's really in great shape after a three year break. We should look at Fisichella and Badoer in last year's Ferrari.. We should look at Lauda's and Mansell's first races after their comebacks considering their teammates ... Being consistent and comfortable with the car is awfully harder than it seems on TV :)

Some people around me reached the following conclusion after the Bahrain GP: Hamilton is faster than Alonso, Alonso is much more faster than Schumi ever was compared to Massa. So Hamilton is faster than Schumi ever was.... Can u believe that? Is it that simple for f**k's sake?? :dozey:


I think he might win a couple of GPs this year but unless Ross Brawn takes something special out of the bag, it's Alonso's or Vettel's year.( Mc Laren and Lewis worry me, though) The real target is 2011 methinks.... If he outcores Nico at the end of 2010, he will have done the job.. The rest depends on the car and the team.. No one can blame him if he can't be world champion this year...

What saddens me is that the majority of the people with the exception of the real F1 viewers only look at the results completely ignoring the parameters leading to them..

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Originally Posted by truefan72

I may not like the guy or his tactics, but there is no disputing that to me he is the greatest F1 driver. His statistics are not just numbers, they are staggering. Yeah he had some dominant cars, but so did other great champs. No matter what one thinks of him, he was and is a superb driver with that unique quality of getting more out of a car than what seems possible.There are huge character flaws and blemishes in his career as well as some cars that i thought were wavering on legality and some other situations that confirmed the worst of the FIArrari pact, but still, it's really no contest IMO

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while his statistics are staggering and there is no denying that statiscally he is the best.

however i have always disliked his lack of sportmanship, his reluctancy to take on worthy drivers as teammates and the neverending doubts about the legality of some cars he drove to the championship.

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Originally Posted by ratonmacias

while his statistics are staggering and there is no denying that statiscally he is the best.

however i have always disliked his lack of sportmanship, his reluctancy to take on worthy drivers as teammates and the neverending doubts about the legality of some cars he drove to the championship.

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MS' problem is that all his team mates became unworthy drivers after a season alongside him. Just adds to his impressive achievements.

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Originally Posted by ratonmacias

while his statistics are staggering and there is no denying that statiscally he is the best.

however i have always disliked his lack of sportmanship, his reluctancy to take on worthy drivers as teammates and the neverending doubts about the legality of some cars he drove to the championship.

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This has little to do with his amazing ability. Many great drivers will do many things to win.

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Originally Posted by ioan

MS' problem is that all his team mates became unworthy drivers after a season alongside him. Just adds to his impressive achievements.

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What a depressing commentary on the modern F1 'fan'. Can anyone imagine an F1 enthusiast of the 1950s suggesting that one of Fangio's positive qualities was his ability to make his team-mates look inferior?