Danica Closer to AGR deal

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Originally Posted by indycool

Read the thread. Plenty of references to her being a her. If it was an E.J. Viso or Justin Wilson or Vitor Meira or Dan Wheldon or someone else like them, there would be no multi-page discussion.

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IC, I think if you were to substitute "he" for every "her" in this thread, you would find there is no sex bias in the posts at all. Lots of anti- Danica bias or the driver named Danica can't cut it in NASCAR (a sentiment I agree with 1000%). But I don't see a single instance of "a girl can't cut it in NASCAR" sort of talk in this thread. Justin no I think he actually might be able to pull it off, maybe even Wheldon. Vitor, yes, I think we might be having this discussion. EJ, not so sure he could either. Just sayin'...

Gary

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Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior

When? Uh... IF The Danica ever wins a Truck series, Nationwide Series or Sprint Cup Series race: I will forever more be known as NASCAR_Warrior. :D

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Has Salma called yet?

:p

ClarkFan

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Originally Posted by indycool

My "biases?" I don't know what "biases" I'm supposed to have. I just don't thonk the fifth-place driver in points deserves all this lovin' and hatin' for eight pages on this board. .

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If the only standard used to qualify a driver for a discussion were their points position, you would be absolutely correct. There aren't long threads on Mutoh, or Viso, or Rahal, or almost any other driver. So why the long discussions about one single driver?

First, there once were multiple long threads about Danica running simultaneously on almost every forum. Now, a long thread like this is getting much less frequent. Either posters are just tired of the same old discussions, or her popularity just isn't what it once was. Perhaps the shine has worn off.

Second, why do people buy the scandal sheets at the grocery checkouts to read about obscure B movie actors and actresses? They seem to want to know about the often outrageous and silly things they do. Some of the hype around Danica almost defies logic and it can be entertaining to read the latest episode of "wheres Danica?" The sophomoric drooling over her latest photo shoots (heavily air brushed) is often humorous. Even after few years to solidify her status in the IRL, she remains a controversial figure.

My spouse had an interesting observation the other day. Almost every time Danica drops out of the news or is no longer a topic on racing forums and someone else is getting the headlines, she or her brand managers seem to manufacture some new controversy or story. Her racing hasn't made the news lately, so suddenly there will be an announcement on Windtunnel, or she is visiting race shops, or she is doing ........ She just can't seem to be able to allow her "star" to fade from the sky, and like many B movie figures, will do almost anything to keep her name in the press. That just reinforces the opinion often presented on these forums that celebrity and being in the news is Danica's primary goal, not the goal of being a better race driver.

So just like people gather around a car wreck to satisfy some curiosity, race fans gather around the latest Danica saga to see what rumor her brand managers will start next. Its entertainment.

So, her brand managers start all the hype and if she takes a dump at Stewart's race shop, it titillates the glitterati and paparazzi.

Happens to Julia Roberts all the time. But no one accuses her of not having a "goal" of being a better actress.

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Originally Posted by indycool

So, her brand managers start all the hype and if she takes a dump at Stewart's race shop, it titillates the glitterati and paparazzi.

Happens to Julia Roberts all the time. But no one accuses her of not having a "goal" of being a better actress.

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No argument there. Julia Roberts is known for her acting work and that makes her a celebrity. She is still viewed as a serious actress. But at what point does the celebrity overwhelm the substance?

When someone is more famous for what they do outside of their chosen profession than what they do in their profession, they are often judged harshly. Anna Kournikova was actually a very good tennis player, particularly in doubles. But she is more known for what she did off the court and has become a catch word for athletes that focus on celebrity at the expense of their sports career. Natalie Gulbis is another female athlete that chose to self promote in a controversial way and has fought for years to be taken seriously as an athlete.

Some famous people accept celebrity as a consequence of their success, and others use it as a vehicle to try to appear more successful than their talent would suggest.

Will Danica be remembered as racing's version of Kourikova for her escapades away from racing, or for her success as a race driver? IHMO, that question has not yet been answered.

O/T: I don't know very much at all about golf, so I had to look up Natalie Gulbis to see who she is.

I still don't know anything about her. But the only thing I can say is, thank you, Beachbum, for mentioning her name. :)

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OK, back to our regularly scheduled programming: Danica Patrick - When the Legend Becomes Fact, Print the Legend.

The only thing I knew about her is she's that golfer chick that got implants. I do not follow golf though. My guess is that for non-race fans, Danica is that racer chick that gets semi nude alot in FHM type magazines. I guess that's difference with golf and tennis, you can watch the hot women when they're playing, as opposed to covered up head to toe in a racecar.

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Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior

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Can we teach her to run a Dallara?

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Originally Posted by Chamoo

Can we teach her to run a Dallara?

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Based on current case history...it doesn't matter!

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Originally Posted by TURN3

Very well put, which is what common sense has said all along.

EE, sorry to say but your foot is in your mouth on this. You can't state that a contract has been signed and sealed then say things changed...c'mon. From my point of view, which does not include any inside information, this was obvious the ENTIRE time and you just got dooped.

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The only time my foot was in my mouth, was when I bashed Nelson back in the day and ate crow after his finish at Milwaukee a few years back. I congratulated him and took my punishment in person.

I did not guess, or predict that DP was going to NASCAR (and she is). I WAS TOLD BY HER FATHER! I said her father told me about this, back in January or February. And, the fact is becoming reality.

You will find that TJ has now been told he can not speak about the ongoing status with DP, as he has a GAG order on him from IMG. We shall see next time we get with him on a golf course...

Again, you can find me at any time, at any track. Would love to see you come by!