Rally History (part II)

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11th January 2007, 14:10
jrally

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaps

Thanks jorge!

To continue with 1976;
Here's what I managed to reconstruct for Lancia's participation in that season:

1.Monte Carlo
Lancia Alitalia:
Munari-Maiga Lancia Stratos HF
Waldegard-Thorszelius Lancia Stratos HF
Pinto-Bernacchini Lancia Stratos HF

Team Chardonnet(?):
Darniche-Mahe Lancia Stratos HF

2.Swedish
Lancia Alitalia:
Waldegard-Thorszelius Lancia Stratos HF
Lampinen-Hertz Lancia Stratos HF

3.Portugal
Lancia Alitalia:
Munari-Maiga Lancia Stratos HF
Pinto-Bernacchini Lancia Stratos HF

4.Safari
Lancia Alitalia:
Munari-Maiga Lancia Stratos HF
Waldegard-Thorszelius Lancia Stratos HF
Preston jr.-Lyall Lancia Stratos HF

5. Acropolis
Lancia Alitalia:
Waldegard-Thorszelius Lancia Stratos HF
Pinto-Bernacchini Lancia Stratos HF
Pregliasco-Garzoglio Lancia Stratos HF

6. Maroc
Lancia Alitalia:
Munari-Maiga Lancia Stratos HF
(only works Lancia?)

7.1000 Lakes
no Lancias?

8. San Remo
Lancia Alitalia:
Munari- Maiga Lancia Stratos HF
Waldegard-Thorszelius Lancia Stratos HF
Pinto-Bernacchini Lancia Stratos HF
"Tony"-Mannini Lancia Stratos HF (works entry?)

9. Corse
Lancia Alitalia:
Munari-Maiga Lancia Stratos HF
Team Chardonnet(?):
Darniche-Mahe Lancia Stratos HF

Serpaggi-Subrini Lancia Stratos HF(entrant?)

10. RAC
Lancia Alitalia:
Munari-Maiga Lancia Stratos HF

jorge, (or anyone else who might know) is this complete/correct?
PS I'm only interested in works and most important privateer entries.
Thank you.

1.Monte Carlo
Lancia Alitalia:
Munari-Maiga Lancia Stratos HF
Waldegard-Thorszelius Lancia Stratos HF
Pinto-Bernacchini Lancia Stratos HF

Team Chardonnet:
Darniche-Mahe Lancia Stratos HF

2.Swedish
Lancia Alitalia:
Waldegard-Thorszelius Lancia Stratos HF
Lampinen-Hertz Lancia Stratos HF
Walfridsson-Nilsson Lancia Stratos HF

3.Portugal
Lancia Alitalia:
Munari-Maiga Lancia Stratos HF
Pinto-Bernacchini Lancia Stratos HF

4.Safari
Lancia Alitalia:
Munari-Maiga Lancia Stratos HF
Waldegard-Thorszelius Lancia Stratos HF
Preston jr.-Lyall Lancia Stratos HF

5. Acropolis
Lancia Alitalia:
Waldegard-Thorszelius Lancia Stratos HF
Pinto-Bernacchini Lancia Stratos HF
Pregliasco-Garzoglio Lancia Stratos HF

6. Maroc
Lancia Alitalia:
Munari-Maiga Lancia Stratos HF
(only works Lancia?) Yes

7.1000 Lakes
no Lancias? yes

8. San Remo
Lancia Alitalia:
Munari- Maiga Lancia Stratos HF
Waldegard-Thorszelius Lancia Stratos HF
Pinto-Bernacchini Lancia Stratos HF
"Tony"-Mannini Lancia Stratos HF (works entry?) No, Jolly Club

9. Corse
Lancia Alitalia:
Munari-Maiga Lancia Stratos HF

Team Chardonnet(?): Yes
Darniche-Mahe Lancia Stratos HF
Serpaggi-Subrini Lancia Stratos HF(entrant?) private

10. RAC
Lancia Alitalia:
Munari-Maiga Lancia Stratos HF
Walfridsson-Frazer Lancia Stratos HF (entrant : Chequered Flag)

Regards
jorge
12th January 2007, 17:01
Kaps

Jorge, I cannot thank you enough!

Moving on to the next teams, here's what I have for 1976 campaigns of Opel and Ford;

OPEL:

1.Monte Carlo
Opel Euro Handler Team:
Rohrl-Berger Kadett GT/E
Kullang-Andersson Kadett GT/E
Mikkola-Billstam Kadett GT/E

2.Swedish:
Dealer Opel Team Sweden(?):
Kullang-Andersson Ascona
Dealer Opel Team Holland(?):
L. Carlsson-De Jong Kadett GT/E

Danielsson-Edqvist Kadett GT/E (Entrant?)

3.Portugal:
Opel Euro Handler Team:
Rohrl-Billstam Kadett GT/E
Kullang-Andersson Kadett GT/E

4.Safari:
Opel Euro Handler Team:
Rohrl-Billstam Kadett GT/E
Aaltonen-Pitz Kadett GT/E
Herrmann-Simonian Kadett GT/E (Nationality of Edgar Herrmann, German or Kenyan?)

5. Acropolis -no works entry

6. Maroc
Fall-Hadley Kadett GT/E Entrant?

7.1000 Lakes
Opel Euro Handler Team:
Kullang-Andersson Kadett GT/E only works entry?

8. San Remo:
Opel Euro Handler Team:
Rohrl-Pitz Kadett GT/E
Ballestrieri-Maiga Kadett GT/E (Opel Euro Handler Team?)
Nicolas-Laverne Kadett GT/E (Opel Euro Handler Team?)

9. Corse
Opel Euro Handler Team:
Rohrl-Berger Kadett GT/E
Nicolas-Laverne Kadett GT/E

10. RAC
Opel Euro Handler Team:
Rohrl-Berger Kadett GT/E
Kullang-Andersson Kadett GT/E
Aaltonen-Billstam Kadett GT/E
Smolej-De Jong KadettGT/E
Dealer Opel Team:
Fall-Broad Kadett GT/E
Danielsson-Sundberg Kadett GT/E (Bo or Ulf Sundberg as co-driver?)

FORD:
1.Monte:
Ford Motor Co. Ltd:
Clark-Porter Escort RS 1800
Makinen-Liddon Escort RS 1800

2.Maroc
Ford Motor Co. Ltd:
Clark-Porter Escort RS 1800
Makinen-Liddon Escort RS 1800

3.1000 Lakes
Ford Motor Co. Ltd:
Makinen-Liddon Escort RS 1800
Vatanen-Aho Escort RS 1800
Team Avon Tyres:
Airikkala-Virtanen Escort RS 1800

4. RAC
Ford Motor Co. Ltd:
Clark-Pegg Escort RS 1800
Makinen-Liddon Escort RS 1800
Allied Polymer Group: (can this be considered a works entry?)
Vatanen-Bryant Escort RS 1800
Privateer: (?)
Waldegard-Thorszelius Escort RS 1800 (Waldegard signed for Ford after San Remo, so how come he's only a privateer at RAC?)
Team Avon Tyres:
Airikkala-Greasley Escort RS 1800

Is all this correct?

Thank you!
12th January 2007, 18:29
Giorgio

Someone knows.....

16 maggio 1960
1° Rally Vltava
Start: Marianske Lazne
Finish: Karlovy Vary

km. 2700
grand touring cars - touring cars
national rally

1. ???? Knoll - ???? Kruger (DKW Junior)
2. ???? Pavelka - ???? Micik (Tatra)
3. ???? Vermirovski - ???? Mican (Tatra)

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23 luglio 1961
2° Rally Vltava
Start: Marianske Lazne
Finish: Karlovy Vary

km. ????
grand touring cars - touring cars
national rally

1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

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?? /?? / 1962
3° Rally Vltava
Start: ????
Finish: ????

km. ????
grand touring cars - touring cars
national rally

1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

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?? /?? / 1963
Czechoslovakia

4° Rally Vltava
Start: ????
Finish: ????

km. ????
grand touring cars - touring cars
national rally

1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

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14 luglio 1964
5° Rally Vltava
Start: Praha
Finish: Praha

km. 2500
grand touring cars - touring cars
international rally

1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

---------------------------------------------------------------------

5 luglio 1965
6° Rally Vltava
Start: Liberec
Finish: Liberec

km. 2200
grand touring cars - touring cars
european rally championship
international rally

1. Rauno Aaltonen - Tony Ambrose (BMC Cooper S 1300)
2. René Trautmann - Claudine Bouchet (Lancia Flavia 1800 Coupé)
3. Giorgio Pianta - Luciano Lombardini (Lancia Flavia 1800 Coupé)

Thanks in advance

Giorgio
12th January 2007, 19:19
januszsz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giorgio

Someone knows.....

16 maggio 1960
1° Rally Vltava
Start: Marianske Lazne
Finish: Karlovy Vary

km. 2700
grand touring cars - touring cars
national rally

1. ???? Knoll - ???? Kruger (DKW Junior)
2. ???? Pavelka - ???? Micik (Tatra)
3. ???? Vermirovski - ???? Mican (Tatra)

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23 luglio 1961
2° Rally Vltava
Start: Marianske Lazne
Finish: Karlovy Vary

km. ????
grand touring cars - touring cars
national rally

1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

?? /?? / 1962
3° Rally Vltava
Start: ????
Finish: ????

km. ????
grand touring cars - touring cars
national rally

1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

?? /?? / 1963
Czechoslovakia

4° Rally Vltava
Start: ????
Finish: ????

km. ????
grand touring cars - touring cars
national rally

1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

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14 luglio 1964
5° Rally Vltava
Start: Praha
Finish: Praha

km. 2500
grand touring cars - touring cars
international rally

1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

---------------------------------------------------------------------

5 luglio 1965
6° Rally Vltava
Start: Liberec
Finish: Liberec

km. 2200
grand touring cars - touring cars
european rally championship
international rally

1. Rauno Aaltonen - Tony Ambrose (BMC Cooper S 1300)
2. René Trautmann - Claudine Bouchet (Lancia Flavia 1800 Coupé)
3. Giorgio Pianta - Luciano Lombardini (Lancia Flavia 1800 Coupé)

Thanks in advance

Giorgio

16 maggio 1960
It was Rallye CSR not Vltava
Start: Marianske Lazne
Finish: Karlovy Vary

km. 2700
grand touring cars - touring cars
national rally
1. Rolf Knoll - G. Krüger (DKW Junior)
2. Jaroslav Pavelka - Ivan Micik (Tatra 603)
3. Adolf Vermirovski - L. Mican (Tatra 603)

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1° Rally Vltava
Start and finish: Praha
1. Zdenek Mraz / Vlastimil? Havel (Skoda Octavia Super)
2. Jaroslav Bobek / ?? (Skoda Octavia Super)
3. O. Pasch / ?? (Skoda Octavia Super)
start 88 crews, 2 special stages

1961
2° Rally Vltava
km. 311
1. M. Halada / V. Janatka (Fiat 600)
2. J. Janout - ???? ???? (Skoda Octavia Super)
3. Jiri Srnsky - ???? ???? (Skoda Octavia Super)
start 46/ finish 39
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?? /?? / 1962
3° Rally Vltava
Start: ????
Finish: Praha
km. 304
CS Rally Championship
1. Alois Mark - Z. Raska (Tatra 603)
2. Jaroslav Fac - Lubomir Rek (Tatra 603)
3. Vladimir Hubacek - P. Svejda (Skoda Octavia Super)
start 72/ finish 57

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?? /?? / 1963
Czechoslovakia

4° Rally Vltava
Start: Praha
Finish: Karlove Vary
km. 1480
CS Rally Championship

1. Zdenek Treybal - L. Sekac (Saab)
2. Egemova - Somr (Fiat Abarth)
3. Jaroslav Bobek - Leo Hnatevic (Skoda)
start 81/ finish 40
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14 luglio 1964
5° Rally Vltava
Start: Praha
Finish: Praha

km. 2480
grand touring cars - touring cars
international rally

1. Sobiesław Zasada - Kazimierz Osinski (Steyr Puch 650TR)
2. Zdenek Treybal - L. Sekac (Saab)
3. Alois Mark - Zdenek Cechmanek (Tatra 603)
start 81/ finish 14
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5 luglio 1965
6° Rally Vltava
Start: Liberec
Finish: Liberec

km. 2240
grand touring cars - touring cars
european rally championship
international rally

1. Rauno Aaltonen - Tony Ambrose (BMC Cooper S 1300)
2. René Trautmann - Claudine Bouchet (Lancia Flavia 1800 Coupé)
3. Giorgio Pianta - Luciano Lombardini (Lancia Flavia 1800 Coupé)
start 83/ finish 12

Regards
Janusz
source: a chechoslovak book not known title as I got just only a copy of pages refering to rallying
12th January 2007, 19:28
dario

14 luglio 1964
5° Rally Vltava
Start: Praha
Finish: Praha

km. 2480
grand touring cars - touring cars
international rally

1. Sobiesław Zasada - Kazimierz Osinski (Steyr Puch 650TR)
2. Zdenek Treybal - L. Sekac (Saab)
3. Alois Mark - Zdenek Cechmanek (Tatra 603)
start 81/ finish 14
-
Regards
Janusz

Hi Janusz ,
do you konw also the 4° to 10° of this rally ?
Thanks in advance
Best regards
Dario
12th January 2007, 21:43
FAL

RAC76 FORD:

Vatanen in works car - same car(LAR801P, although I think re-shelled for RAC76) and same sponsor as 75 RAC winning car for Makinen.

Arikkala/Team Avon Tyres was a David Sutton car (which should have won - see Penti's account of it on "Old Rally Drivers" thread in this section/forum).

Waldegard in works car (found for him at last minute - "Motorcraft", Ford accessory division as sponsor but I think official entrant had to remain someone else's original entry under regulation that allows change of car or crew but not both - Lancia were not about to let him use their original entry for him!).

RAC76 OPEL
(Rohrl retired with failed oil pump about 20 miles from where I am sitting at this moment!)
12th January 2007, 21:47
januszsz

Quote:

Originally Posted by dario

14 luglio 1964
5° Rally Vltava
Start: Praha
Finish: Praha

km. 2480
grand touring cars - touring cars
international rally

1. Sobiesław Zasada - Kazimierz Osinski (Steyr Puch 650TR)
2. Zdenek Treybal - L. Sekac (Saab)
3. Alois Mark - Zdenek Cechmanek (Tatra 603)
start 81/ finish 14
-
Regards
Janusz

Hi Janusz ,
do you konw also the 4° to 10° of this rally ?
Thanks in advance
Best regards
Dario

Sorry, just only top 6:
4. Vladimir Hubacek / Somr - Skoda Octavia Super TS
5. Adolf Vermirovsky / Stanislav Hajdusek - Tatra 603
6. Jiri Srnsky / Vladimir Lokvenc - Skoda Octavia Super TS
Regards
Janusz
13th January 2007, 03:09
Kaps

Very interesting that Waldegard-Lancia-Ford story.

Thank you FAL!
13th January 2007, 15:54
FAL

I've just checked the original provisional entry list for the 1976 RAC (I have it as I was a competitor) and No32, which Waldegard/Thorzelius actually ran at, was originally Nigel Rockey in an RS1800. (Rockey had a degree of support from Ford at times and Ford Comps at Boreham probably made it worth his while to give up his entry). Regulations at the time allowed change of car model or crew but not both (actual car didn't matter if it was same model). Waldegard was No.2 in a Stratos on the provisional entry list.
Nigel Rockey was recently reported as returning to Historic rallying in an Alpine A110 (he once had one "in period").
13th January 2007, 16:31
jrally

That's right ! Waldegard beat Munari in Sanremo by 4 seconds and ... he was put out of the team (sacked?) so he took the place of Rockey and he beat again Munari (3th and 4th respectively)

regards
jorge

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