Rally Sweden 2012

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Originally Posted by dimviii

you are right Don Jippo.

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So in practice it means with 30 tires you have one new tire more for each loop as there were two loops per day? Or two for three loops if they were carrying two spares with them but then you would not have new ones as spare after three loops, in case you change those during the loop? Does this make such a big performance gap?

Very nice picture...

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Originally Posted by DonJippo

So in practice it means with 30 tires you have one new tire more for each loop as there were two loops per day? Or two for three loops if they were carrying two spares with them but then you would not have new ones as spare after three loops, in case you change those during the loop? Does this make such a big performance gap?

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you can carry 2 spares,and at next stage the crew can change themselves their 2 front tyres.Mikkelsen couldn t do it when he had destroyed tyres.
Ogier could push ie in a 24km stage flat out,and at next stage he could install his 2 spares.So again flat out as he had new tyres at front.Of course he didn t do it at all stages,but didn t all stages need new tyres.Mikkelsen couldn t have this chance with 6-7 tyres less.

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Originally Posted by Pinto

seeing on twitter of some issue with P-G's proton at post event scruitneering,any truth in this???

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And Mc Rae Proton

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Originally Posted by tolis

Very nice picture...

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Tolis fix the link,it is not visible.

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Originally Posted by DonJippo

So in practice it means with 30 tires you have one new tire more for each loop as there were two loops per day? Or two for three loops if they were carrying two spares with them but then you would not have new ones as spare after three loops, in case you change those during the loop? Does this make such a big performance gap?

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Now it's sure not easy to follow what everyone says in the discussion, and I have not come up with excuses for Andreas M's result.
But when the discussion gave Ogier + because he had earlier start number, it can of course be nice to get all the facts which affect the result.

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Originally Posted by dimviii

you can carry 2 spares,and at next stage the crew can change themselves their 2 front tyres.Mikkelsen couldn t do it when he had destroyed tyres.
Ogier could push ie in a 24km stage flat out,and at next stage he could install his 2 spares.So again flat out as he had new tyres at front.Of course he didn t do it at all stages,but didn t all stages need new tyres.Mikkelsen couldn t have this chance with 6-7 tyres less.

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Actually if I am reading this document correctly, http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public...Appendices.pdf page 47 section 62.1 it says you can't have 6 new tyres with you as it is allowed to take only 5 new ones per change, except Acropolis where you can take 6 new ones. So that in mind did Mikkelsen have such a big performance gap compared to Ogier related to amount of tires?

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Originally Posted by Francis44

No.... What I mean is that I credit more someone who fought for a chance than someone who didn't had to make much to have one. For me to compare Ogier with Mikkelsen is insulting.

However I hope Mikkelsen does well and I believe we might be WRC material soon.

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A usually portuguese way of thinking... :rolleyes:

I consider insultuous to say that about Andreas, and skarderud already explained why.

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Originally Posted by Coach 2

Now it's sure not easy to follow what everyone says in the discussion, and I have not come up with excuses for Andreas M's result.
But when the discussion gave Ogier + because he had earlier start number, it can of course be nice to get all the facts which affect the result.

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I'm not digging anyone's excuses just wondering how big part this tire issue really had between them.

http://www.rallysweden.com/wp-conten...-doc.-2..6.pdf

Seems like PG and McRae has to add 2minutes to their times....