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2nd October 2011, 12:17
stanislav197

Unlike of Zlatni 1975 ,for Rally Zlatni 1976 have no full starting list.I have no these numbers ,except 50.George Yovchev BG -Jordan Mollov BG - Moskvich 412.
3rd October 2011, 20:54
cvhi

Entry List Poland Rally

For the Poland Rally 1995, I dont have these numbers N°20, N°37, N°39, N°64, N°69. Perhaps not attribued on entry list, if someone can help me ?
4th October 2011, 09:20
januszsz

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Originally Posted by cvhi

For the Poland Rally 1995, I dont have these numbers N°20, N°37, N°39, N°64, N°69. Perhaps not attribued on entry list, if someone can help me ?

You are right, those numbers were "empty" on the entry list.
Regards
Janusz
4th October 2011, 12:28
Jagpushrod

Jaguar Mk5 1951-54 Monte Carlo /Rac

I am researching the brief Rally career of the Jaguar 3.5 litre Mk5 car ( i own one ) A Mk5 came 3rd 1951 and 5th 1953 on the Monte, driven by Irishman Cecil Vard. ( Google "Cecil Vard Irish Rally" for a pic of Mk5 and Cecils Achievements )

Whilst not the fastest of cars its 3.5 litre pushrod engine produced 125 bhp / 200 lbs/ft Torque...it had excellent roadholding with 50/50 weight balance.

Info required on any of the below.....

In 1951 7 Mk5,s entered the Monte.. 6 from Glasgow and 1 from Madrid ..i am seeking info on car 227 a Mr Hole.... car 241 Reggie Tongue ( a famous Racing driver of the period )

The Spanish driver was Sig. E. Descals Juncusa with A. Rogue/Rivero. car 121.

1952 Car 90 D. Warwick / F Warwick.

!953 Car 136 H Harrop / T. Saxton... Manchester area ?

1954 Car 187 L.S. Norman / D. Farquarson Leicester area ?
Car 232 Handley / Lucas Dudley area ?

In Sweden in 1952 A. Mr Hagstom entered a Mk 5 on the Midnightsun car no 19 Regisration A 56985.....any knowledge on this out there ?

Any leads on info / living family members/ photos greatly Appreciated.

The Mk5,s legacy was Ronnie Adams winning the 1956 Monte with a Mk7 Jaguar....the Mk7 inherited the Mk5,s chassis...the Mk7 benefitting from the "New " 3.4 litre 165 bhp. Twin overhaed cam engine...

The Mk5,s Rallying in the UK and Monte was in the limelight of the success of the XK120 on Alpine and other Major events ( Not eligible for Monte ) and Jaguars Le Mans success,s of all of the 1950,s. ,, and the Mk5,s brief success,s have not been fully reported on....so any clues greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Ed Abbott
4th October 2011, 16:36
sednem

Quote:

Originally Posted by focus206

Many thanks Américo! :)
One thing about nationality: are You sure Greta Molander (Tulip 1955) was Dutch? According to me she was Swedish.

Now I'd like to know these results: answer me when You have time.

1956
Tulip - 6th to 10th
6. #168 Jan Langestraat (NLD)/B.L. van der Wansem (NLD) - Rover 75 -
7. #209 P.D.C. Brookes (GBR)/R.E.W. Wellswest (GBR) - Morris Minor 1000 -
8. #219 Philippe van de Maelle (FRA)/J. Langlard (FRA) - Citroen DF -
9. #188 F. Riest (DEU)/Günther Isenbügel (DEU) - Ford Taunus 12M -
10. #32 Lyndon Sims (GBR)/Tony Ambrose (GBR) - Aston Martin DB2

1957
Liege-Rome-Liege - 7th to 10th
7. #??? Paul Guiraud (FRA)/Henri Beau (FRA) - Peugeot 203 -
8. #??? Claude Michy (FRA)/Maurice Foulgoc (FRA) - Renault Dauphine 845cc -
9. #??? Alain de Changy (BEL)/André Liekens (BEL) - Triumph -
10. #??? Paul Ernst Strähle (DEU)/Herbert Linge (DEU) - Porsche 356 Carrera 1500GS -
(sorry, I forgot to ask about those 2)

1958
German - 6th, 7th, 9th (Missing too)
Liege-Rome-Liege - 7th to 10th
7. #21 Roger Masson (FRA)/Jean Vinatier (FRA) - DB-Panhard -
8. #??? Claude Clemens (DEU)/Rob Slotemaker (NLD) - Porsche 356A 1600S -
9. #??? John Gott (GBR)/Ray Brookes (GBR) - MG A-1600 -
10. #??? Gerry Burgess (GBR)/Sam Croft-Pearson (GBR) - Austin Healey 100 -

ACP - top 10 (someone says it was a ERC rally, someone says it wasn't...)
IMO Not ERC (I have no record of this race... Was it suppressed???)

1959
Tulip - 6th, 9th, 10th
6. #120 Freddy Karrer (CHE)/Karl Foitek (CHE) - Alfa Romeo Giulietta Ti -
9. #93 Gunnar Andersson (SWE)/Walter Karlsson (SWE) - Volvo PV544 -
10. #78 Cuth Harrison (GBR)/John Harrison (GBR) - Ford Zephyr Six -

Midnight Sun - 6th, 8th, 9th
6. #??? Gunnar Andersson (SWE)/Walter Karlsson (SWE) - Volvo PV544 -
8. #??? Harry Bengtsson (SWE)/Åke Righard (SWE) - Volkswagen -
9. #??? Ivar Andersson (SWE)/Lennart Simonsson (SWE) - Mercedes-Benz 220SE -

German - 6th, 8th, 9th (Missing too)
RAC - 7th to 10th (Missing too)
ACP - 6th to 10th (I only have top6)
6. #??? Erik Carlsson (SWE)/Karl-Erik Svensson (SWE) - Saab 93B -

Thanks in advance for any answer.

Best Regards
Américo
4th October 2011, 16:48
sednem

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Originally Posted by stanislav197

Thank,Americo .Help me for ERC-1971 :9/Geneve - 4,7,9-10 th ;12/Danube - 5 and 10 th ;;ERC-1972 :2/Costa Brava - 6,8,10 th ;3/Neyge et Glas - 7-9 th ;5/Pneumant - 5-10 th ;6/Firestown - 8-9 th ;8/Scotish -5 th ;17/Sachs Baltic - 9 th ;24/Belgia - 7-10 th ;;ERC-1973 :2/Costa Brava - 8-10 th ;4/Firestown - 10 th ;5/Isola d'Elba - 8 th ;6/Circuit of Irland - 2,5,6,9-10 th ;7/Tulpen - 8 and 10 th ;11/ Semperit - 7 th ;12/Scotish - 10 th ;19/Munhen-Wiena-Budapest - 5 and 10 th ;20/Cyprus - 4,5,7-10 th ;21/Race - 7-10 th ;

ERC-1971 :
9/Geneve - 4,7,9-10 th ; (Missing too)
4. #??? Florian Vetsch (CHE)/??? Olivier (CHE) - Porsche 911-S -

12/Danube - 5 and 10 th;
5. #??? Heinz Böck (AUT)/H. Kohlbacher (AUT) - Mazda RX-2 -
10. #??? Stefan Iancovici (ROM)/V. Ficiu (ROM) - Renault 8 Gordini -

ERC-1972
2/Costa Brava - 6,8,10 th
6. #59 Jorge Babler (ESP)/Ernesto Borau (ESP) - Seat 1430-S -
8. #60 Javier Brugué (ESP)/J. Roset (ESP) - Seat 1430-S -
10. #21 Alfonso Marcos (ESP)/R. Vial (ESP) - Alpine-Renault A110 -

3/Néige et Glace - 7-9 th
7. #??? Jean Ragnotti (FRA)/??? Coche (FRA) - Opel Ascona 1.9 -
8. #??? ??? Charpentier (FRA)/??? Pierre (FRA) - Renault 12 Gordini -
9. #??? Jean-Christophe Court-Payen (FRA)/??? del Negri (FRA) - Opel Kadett

5/Pneumant - 5-10 th (missing too)
6/Firestone - 8-9 th
8. #??? Jean-François Más (FRA)/B. Gass (FRA) - BMW 2002 Tii -
9. #??? «Pancho» (ESP)/??? Sánchez (ESP) - Ford Capri 2600 -

8/Scotish -5 th
5. #14 Ingvar Carlsson (SWE)/Ingemar Carlsson (SWE) - BMW 2002 Tii -

17/Sachs Baltic - 9 th
9. #??? Bengt Sorensen (DNK)/??? Petersen (DNK) - BMW 2002 Tii -

24/Belgia - 7-10 th (missing too)

ERC-1973 :
2/Costa Brava - 8-10 th
8. #25 Antonio Melero (ESP)/Adriano Pérez de Lara (ESP) - Simca 1200-S - 18873.5 pts
9. #57 Joan Tarrés (ESP)/Josep Ventura (ESP) - Seat 1430-S - 19003.0 pts
10. #63 José María Jordá (ESP)/F.J. Casanova (ESP) - Seat 1430-S - 19417.8 pts

4/Firestone - 10 th
10. #49 Fernando Lezama (ESP)/Juan M. Casas (ESP) - Seat 1430 -

5/Isola d'Elba - 8 th
8. #??? Franco Ceccato (ITA)/Loris Roggia (ITA) - Fiat Abarth 124 Rallye -

6/Circuit of Irland - 2,5,6,9-10 th
2. #??? Eamonn Cotter (IRL)/Paul Phelan (IRL) - BMW 2002 Tii -
5. #??? Mervyn Johnston (IRL)/??? McFarland (IRL) - Mini Cooper S -
6. #??? David Lindsay (GBR)/Jack Cunningham (GBR) - Ford Escort RS1600 -
9. #??? ??? Bridges (GBR)/Brendan Doyle (GBR) - Ford Escort RS1600 -
10. #??? Thomas Lawther (GBR)/??? Brown (GBR) - Mini Cooper S -

7/Tulpen - 8 and 10 th
8. #??? Frank Pierson (GBR)/Colin Francis (GBR) - Ford Escort RS1600 -
10. #??? Bob Bean (GBR)/David Greenwood (GBR) - Ford Escort Mexico -

11/ Semperit - 7 th
7. #??? Erich Haberl (AUT)/Martin Pucher (AUT) - Porsche 911-S -

12/Scotish - 10 th
10. #??? David Thompson (GBR)/Maurice Isley (GBR) - Ford Escort RS1600 -

19/Munhen-Wiena-Budapest - 5 and 10 th (10th missing too)
5. #??? Jürgen Kaufhold (DEU)/??? Schucan (DEU) - Opel Ascona 1.6S -

20/Cyprus - 4,5,7-10 th (Only have top6)
4. #??? Mihalis Koumas (GRC)/Tony Watson (GBR) - Mitsubishi Colt Galant -
5. #??? George Booty (GBR)/Derek Smith (GBR) - Mitsubishi Colt Galant -

21/Race - 7-10 th
7. #??? «Crady» (ESP)/Victor Fernández (ESP) - Porsche 914/6 -
8. #??? «Squalo Rivero» (ESP)/José Goyanes (ESP) - BMW 2002 Tii -
9. #??? «Gekados» (ESP)/Miguel Gascón (ESP) - Seat 1430 -
10. #??? Valerio Alonso (ESP)/M. Alonso (ESP) - Seat 1430/1600 Especial -

Best Regards
Américo.
4th October 2011, 16:57
sednem

Hi Guys,

Regardin ERC results, has you've seen I have also some missing results...
Those seem realy hard to find, Here's my list, If somebody can fill those holes...

56, RAC: 7-10th
56, Midnattssolen 7-10th
56, Adriatico 7-10th
57, Midnattssolen: 6-8th and 10th
58, Wisbaden: 6,7,9th
59, Wiesbaden 6,8,9 th
59, RAC Rally 7-10th
59, ACP-Aveiro Estoril 6-10th
71, Genève 7,9,10th
72, Pneumant 5-8, 10th
72, Tour de Belgique 7-10th
73, YU Rally 10th
73, Paris-St Raphael 6-10th
73, Cyprus 7-10th
73, München-Wien-Budapest 10th
74, San Marino 7-10th
74, Danube 7,9-10th
74, Lugano 7-10th
74, OASC 7-10th
75, Polar Bergslags 9-10th
76, Lucien Bianchi 7-10th
77, OASC 2-10th
77, Bosfore 6-10th

And Only Makes Chpship...
69, Baltic 3-10th

Best regards,
Américo.
4th October 2011, 18:17
focus206

Thanks Américo :)
The results you are searching seems indeed very hard too find, unfortunately I have noone of them (I suppose you have the 6th of Midnight Sun 1957, since you gave him to me earlier).

Now I would need these results:

1960
Tulip - 6th

1961
Tulip - 6th
Acropolis - 6th
Liege-Sofia-Liege - 4th and 5th

1962
Tulip - 7th and 9th
Liege-Sofia-Liege - 6th

1963
Tulip - 8th

1964
Fiori - 3rd to 5th
Tulip - 4th, 5th, 7th to 10th

1965
Tulip - 6th
Munich-Wien-Budapest - 6th

Answer me when you have time and sorry again for not being able to help.
Thanks in advance.
4th October 2011, 19:28
januszsz

Quote:

Originally Posted by sednem

ERC-1972
2/Costa Brava - 6,8,10 th
6. #59 Jorge Babler (ESP)/Ernesto Borau (ESP) - Seat 1430-S -
8. #60 Javier Brugué (ESP)/J. Roset (ESP) - Seat 1430-S -
10. #21 Alfonso Marcos (ESP)/R. Vial (ESP) - Alpine-Renault A110 - Do you have start numbers for other top 10 drivers here?

ERC-1973 :
2/Costa Brava - 8-10 th
8. #25 Antonio Melero (ESP)/Adriano Pérez de Lara (ESP) - Simca 1200-S - 18873.5 pts
9. #57 Joan Tarrés (ESP)/Josep Ventura (ESP) - Seat 1430-S - 19003.0 pts
10. #63 José María Jordá (ESP)/F.J. Casanova (ESP) - Seat 1430-S - 19417.8 pts
Do you have start numbers and final points for other top 10 drivers here?

4/Firestone - 10 th
10. #49 Fernando Lezama (ESP)/Juan M. Casas (ESP) - Seat 1430 - Do you have start numbers for other top 10 drivers here?

5/Isola d'Elba - 8 th
8. #??? Franco Ceccato (ITA)/Loris Roggia (ITA) - Fiat Abarth 124 Rallye - I have Pino Ceccato and Baggio

6/Circuit of Irland - 2,5,6,9-10 th
2. #??? Eamonn Cotter (IRL)/Paul Phelan (IRL) - BMW 2002 Tii -
5. #??? Mervyn Johnston (IRL)/??? McFarland (IRL) - Mini Cooper S -
6. #??? David Lindsay (GBR)/Jack Cunningham (GBR) - Ford Escort RS1600 -
9. #??? ??? Bridges (GBR)/Brendan Doyle (GBR) - Ford Escort RS1600 -
10. #??? Thomas Lawther (GBR)/??? Brown (GBR) - Mini Cooper S - Do you have positions 4th, 5th and 7th?

7/Tulpen - 8 and 10 th
8. #??? Frank Pierson (GBR)/Colin Francis (GBR) - Ford Escort RS1600 -
10. #??? Bob Bean (GBR)/David Greenwood (GBR) - Ford Escort Mexico - For sure those guys are from The Welsh Rally'73

11/ Semperit - 7 th
7. #??? Erich Haberl (AUT)/Martin Pucher (AUT) - Porsche 911-S -

12/Scotish - 10 th
10. #??? David Thompson (GBR)/Maurice Isley (GBR) - Ford Escort RS1600 -

19/Munchen-Wiena-Budapest - 5 and 10 th (10th missing too)
5. #??? Jürgen Kaufhold (DEU)/??? Schucan (DEU) - Opel Ascona 1.6S -

Best Regards
Américo.

I can't add more this time, sorry.

Regards
Janusz
4th October 2011, 19:44
januszsz

Quote:

Originally Posted by focus206

Thanks Américo :)
The results you are searching seems indeed very hard too find, unfortunately I have noone of them (I suppose you have the 6th of Midnight Sun 1957, since you gave him to me earlier).

Now I would need these results:

1960
Tulip - 6th Erik Carlsson/Walter Karlsson-S-Saab 96

1961
Tulip - 6th Odd Thrana/Leif Samsing-N-Auto Union 1000
Acropolis - 6th Keith Ballisat/Peter Jopp-GB-Sunbeam Rapier
Liege-Sofia-Liege - 4th Eugen Bohringer/Rauno Aaltonen-D/FIN-Mercedes 220SE
and 5th Roger de Lageneste/P. Burglin-F-Citroen DS19

1962
Tulip - 7th Eugen Bohringer/Peter Lang-D-Mercedes 220SEb
and 9th - sorry
Liege-Sofia-Liege - 6th Ken James/Mike Hughes-GB-Rover 3-litre

1963
Tulip - 8th Donald Morley/Erle Morley-GB-Austin Healey 3000

1964
Fiori - 3rd Piero Frescobaldi/Armeno Degli Innocenti-I-Lancia Flavia 1500
4th Velio Bartolini/Walter Bartolini-I-Alfa Romeo Giulietta TI
5th Leo Cella/Romano Ramoino-I-Lancia Flavia 1800

Tulip - 4th Henri Greder/Martial Delalande-F-Ford Falcon Sprint
5th Henry Taylor/Brian Melia-GB-Ford Cortina GT
7th to 10th - sorry just:
10th Erik Carlsson/Gunnar Palm-S-Saab 96

1965
Tulip
6th Timo Makinen/Paul Easter-FIN/GB-BMC Mini Cooper S
Munich-Wien-Budapest
6th Wilfried Gass/Willi Bretthauer-D-Porsche 911

Answer me when you have time and sorry again for not being able to help.
Thanks in advance.

Regards
Janusz

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