Other onboard camera.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79UsFc1exuM
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Other onboard camera.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79UsFc1exuM
Some news from Italy. Robert is now awake and breathes himself. He complains about severe pain in his hand and leg, which the doctors find as a good sign (because he can feel). He was visited by his family. He is aware of his bad condition, but doesn't remember the accident at all.
Apparently Fernando Alonso came to the hospital as well.
I think this could be a place of Robert's crash (the right corner on the middle of the view with small building on the inside and its shadow on the road):
http://maps.google.fi/?ie=UTF8&ll=44...10986&t=h&z=17
Latest news: http://translate.google.it/translate...n&hl=&ie=UTF-8
Confirmed also from national TV news
I think you're right, there's also the second road below the main road.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven
The corner looks both from the satellite photo and the onboards of the next drivers very fast and short corner but it seems that it narrows a lot. If there was a gap between the two guardrails, it might have been a bit deceptive too.
According to translations Moreno says "Damn, I knew he would go off right here!" suggesting that it's a tricky corner, "a place" which local driver(s) were aware of.
I don't understand what is the problem with that stage, someone said that it should not have been driven.
Those rails are very common in Italy, and everywhere in the mountaneous roads around Europe. Some rails are safer and most are not. But I find it even more disturbing, driven rally roads in Catalunya, Gran Canaria, Portugal, all over Italy, Cyprus, Madeira, Greece, France that there are several sections without rails at all!
As a conclusion those roads should be banned, all of them. Then on the other hand, here in Finland all the fatalities caused by the trees, that cut the cars like guillotine. These roads shouldn't be used etiher. Let's ban the whole rallysport!
Kubica's accident is terrible. In Finland we had similar accident a few years back, when similar kind of a rail pierced a car totally. The rail pierced the car between driver's and co-driver's head and they were uninjured.
I'm happy that they survived back then and I'm happy that Robert and Jakub survived this time. Being alive after such a crash is only about good luck.
But rallying is, it has been and it will be one of the most dangerous sport in the world. We have to live with that as long as we survive in the twists and turns of the stages of life and rally!
+1
There are several more dangerous sports for sure. But shall we just settle down and be happy with things as they are?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sami
What can be done?
That is what we should think about. Some stages might be cancelled or exchanged to more safe ones, even in Finland. MAybe the cars are too fast? There is much to be done. The sport cannot afford fatalities in the long term.
This isn't just about rallying, those rails are dangerous no matter what. In the UK there is currently an ongoing scheme to change the ends of barriers like that so that they will neither pierce the car nor launch it into the air. From the video it looks like the barrier has gone through the right hand side of the car and straight out through the firewall and engine bay (like meat on a kebab stick). The fact that both co-driver and driver have emerged alive is extremely lucky, a few millimetres either side and we might not just be talking about the possible end of a career.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sami
I think we all see that such barriers are dangerous but they are everywhere in Italy (and not only there). Those are dozens of thousands of kilometers. To change that is a huge deal which no country can afford these days. It's nothing we can change and nothing we can avoid in Italy.