What do you reckon? Should NZ and Oz have a 3 year rotation each?
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What do you reckon? Should NZ and Oz have a 3 year rotation each?
MaxRally | News | Smeets: let them fight it out
Very systematic analysis in that article. If they sign Juho Hänninen I think it would still be possible for him to do some rounds with Skoda and keep the touch with rallying. He’s done lot of testing with Skoda and the suspension of a S2000 and a WRC are similar. I don’t know but I believe the homologation regulations regarding the suspension are same for WRC and S2000.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plan9
No. Just rotate. I'm happyQuote:
Originally Posted by Plan9
+1 I agree. What do you think about the role of the junior drivers will be? If they choose Hannien + another WRC regular (Solberg, Hirvonen) it will be a senior and experience based team and not at all youthful.Quote:
Originally Posted by OldF
I hope Mouton and Todt come to the same conclusion. I don't want to wait 3 years for the WRC to come to my town.Quote:
Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
I like both of the rallies, so I dont mind :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Plan9
For me Australia has better roads.
NZ for spectators ;)
I like Australia, but I prefer NZ... if it was for me, I would have them both in the calendar, instead of Jordan or Mexico, but well... just a personal opinion.
Don´t forget swedish Henning Solberg stepson Pontus Tidemand who is outpacing Swedish Champion Mats Jonsson in his Fiesta 2000. He would be one of the best choices VW could do among the coming youngsters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plan9
Problem of Tidemand is almost no international and asphalt experience. Driving fast on home soil is one thing, driving fast elsewhere is the other and it takes time to learn that. I'm sure that for the long term "junior" seat they want German or at least German speaking guy.
I'm afraid you're right with this - it was, and is meant to be second only to F1 in terms of prestige. Sadly, it's nowhere near......and with the new FiA WEC next year, it will likely fall even more. Unless, some more Manufacturers can be tempted - and when are they going to join???Quote:
Originally Posted by Plan9
Agree,we ve seen it plenty of times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
i have the same feeling from their choices,and that remembers me the last time they were in wrc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Seems that they confuse France system with the German one....
Bugger it, lets just have the lot ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by focus206
I think you´re wrong. Pontus is even a former gocart racing driver, and of course he has been competing in Norway championship as well. More experienced than you think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
what´s that WV thing about? i just dont get it...Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
It's nice to be fast on go karts but that itself doesn't make You good asphalt rally driver. Of course it helps but would You believe that for example Antonín Tlusťák was many years a go similarly fast on karts as Jan Kopecký (if You even know who Tlusťák is :) )? There are many examples like that... The same comes to foreign experience. Sweden, Norway, ok, I know about that. It's two countries but still just two neighboring countries. There are many very different terrains all over the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
I don't say he won't one day become a world class driver but I'm sure that factory teams are searching prior between drivers who already proved themselves on the roads of WRC or IRC. Hopefully he can get into the world soon because it will take time for him to become more than just a local specialist.
Why should asfalt experience be the ultimate measure for a good driver? Wouldn´it be gravel and snow that is most important? Having said that doesn´t mean tarmac/asfalt experience shouldn´t be counted out, but in my world it isn´t the way you pick best drivers from. That is I think been proven so many times (except for the two Sebs maybe)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Including one Seb - Ogier who was long time faster on gravel than on tarmac ;)
I didn't say tarmac driving is all but to be an important world class player You have to be all-rounder. Being fast on gravel and snow is not enough because those like Loeb or Ogier are not slower on gravel and in the same time they make You a clown on asphalt and make Your championship efforts over just by that.
Finns aren't masters anymore.
Yeah, but as far as I know the German or Czezch drivers named together with VW are only tarmac specialists. Anyway they haven´t done any gravel or snow impressions on more people than maybe local fans.
I have´nt heard of them and I consider myself as more expert than average rallyfan.
It was 20 years ago when Schwarz won Catalunya. Don't know any Chech driver that was on the WRC podium.
Who speaks about Czech drivers? No Czech driver is among VW candidates and never has been.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
With German the situation is different. VW is German company and Germany is the largest automobile market in Europe so it's natural they want to find German driver. The problem is there is no-one now, so they have to make some German star themselves. For this driver the junior third seat will be created.
Why create a seat for a tourist? I named one of the best swedish coming driver at the moment Pontus Tidemand. And he was turned don. No proffessional businessman ca turn down winner. If so they will not have payvck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
That´s what I mean.
It's really shame you can't find average speed in results anywhere after rally-live.com was closed.
Not a proven winner on international level (no discredit to Pontus whatsoever), but Mirek has some very valuable points as you are just .... a bit stubborn. There's more proven drivers out there, like Hänninen, Ketomaa, Neuville, Paddon to just name few out there. We can give some evaluation of Pontus's speed after some many different WRC events. Like I said before, no discredit to Pontus, he is good driver, but to succeed you need luck and speed :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Again, who speaks about tourists? Remember the names coming from Citroën junior seats? Loeb, Meeke, Sordo, Ogier, Neuville...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
In an article I posted earlier suggested that KIA may join with the Rio. So they may be our saving grace, maybe if they are serious they will make an announcement next year. I can't imagine how if KIA did enter how they would be significantly better than their earlier Hyundai effort (keep in mind KIA/Hyundai is 1 of the top 10 car companies now in terms of worldwide sales).Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
I posted an article earlier about KIA possibly entering with the Rio. I think it would be likely they would announce something about it next year if they are actually serious about being in the WRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
I think they should continue as they are and do it bi-annually. I personally do not understand why if Monte Carlo is back, we need to have France as well (I know they are different entities but it doesn't seem WORLD enough and it can't be cost effective to start in 1 point then return to another quite close geographically speaking a few months later). I also feel this is the case for having Mexico, Portugal and Argentina in a row, I am sure that this is not the most cost effective order for these events to be in. This is only my opinion however.Quote:
Originally Posted by focus206
I see your point. But more than Monaco/France (Alasce) I'd say Deutschland/France (Alsace), they are even nearer and more simillar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plan9
It's not but what kind of service is that when you have to calculate those IMPORTANT things by yourself?! At least now we have live tv.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Other names unknown for me and also (I guess) unproven in WRC) has been named as possible drivers. Especially the fourth one, a youngster. Pontus shouild be named beside all those. That´s what I mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
What´s very important for the young drivers is that they can translate pacenotes on recce to real speed.
Sorry but comparing the 2011 PWRC champion with a local young gun is a bit extreme, don't you think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Isn't Paddon being outpaced by Atko in APRC?Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
Don't know about that, but I checked the APRC results and didn't find Paddon to be in the standings at all. So I guess he isn't doing APRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by tfp
Atko won the Rally of Whangarei by 12,4s, Paddon was second. (Proton vs Subaru)
Outpaced is a strong word for just one event where each of them was in different machinery and where they finished just couple of seconds from each other. Anyway Atkinson used to be one of the fastest guys in the world...Quote:
Originally Posted by tfp
Yeah Ive just looked at it, wonder why he isnt scoring any points in there? I dont usually follow APRC so dont really know how it works!Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
I wonder if he still is one of the fastest....Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
You have to be registered.Quote:
Originally Posted by tfp
me too, the proton is not really the car to prove this.Quote:
Originally Posted by tfp