[WRC] News & rumours (part II)

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8th September 2011, 22:52
Plan9

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJW

Autosport report today growing rumours of a direct swap between Ogier and Hirvonen for 2012. Tanak is on a long term contract to Ford. I guess its some kind of succession planning because if JML and Ogier do end up as VW's drivers when they start in 2013, Ford will need the likes of Tanak and Ostberg.

Source for this????

I think that a JML & Ogier Ford team would be more intense than Sainz - McRae Subaru & Ford!!! If this is true they will challenge eachother (have ALOT of crashes), but it will be great for the sport!
Poor old Hirvonen will become the Massa of the WRC at Citroen, I cannot imagine he would be given joint number 1 status that both Sebs currently have.
I am not sure if Ogier or JML would want to change teams so often, if 1 goes to VW it will be ASAP and they wouldn't waste time. I still think that Petter Solberg, Hanninen & Mikkelsen are the most likely VW drivers at this stage.
Tanak & Ostberg will be also another intense fight to watch in the years ahead ;)
8th September 2011, 22:55
N.O.T

I do not think Ford has the money to pay Ogier...the 5 year plans needs all the help he needs when it comes to funding with zero personal sponsors.
8th September 2011, 22:56
MJW

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plan9

Source for this????

I think that a JML & Ogier Ford team would be more intense than Sainz - McRae Subaru & Ford!!! If this is true they will challenge eachother (have ALOT of crashes), but it will be great for the sport!
Poor old Hirvonen will become the Massa of the WRC at Citroen, I cannot imagine he would be given joint number 1 status that both Sebs currently have.
I am not sure if Ogier or JML would want to change teams so often, if 1 goes to VW it will be ASAP and they wouldn't waste time. I still think that Petter Solberg, Hanninen & Mikkelsen are the most likely VW drivers at this stage.
Tanak & Ostberg will be also another intense fight to watch in the years ahead ;)

source for the Ogier /Hirvonen swap is the paper (not online) Autosport magazine published thursday in UK. There is a risk for anyone with a contract for 2012 to effectively sit out the season, and the sharpness that competing not testing gives you could work against someone like JML having a test and development year with VW. Petter is in a different position as he has no contract with a team for 2012, and faces the huge task of raising the budget and competing as a privateer. Even for Petter (who will be 37) a VW test and development season wont be ideal. You need to be doing the recce and rallies to be at the top in WRC, every year.
9th September 2011, 03:23
Plan9

Hmm in light of Loeb's recent accident there may be much more movement for next year than maybe we were expecting?
9th September 2011, 03:27
Plan9

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJW

source for the Ogier /Hirvonen swap is the paper (not online) Autosport magazine published thursday in UK. There is a risk for anyone with a contract for 2012 to effectively sit out the season, and the sharpness that competing not testing gives you could work against someone like JML having a test and development year with VW. Petter is in a different position as he has no contract with a team for 2012, and faces the huge task of raising the budget and competing as a privateer. Even for Petter (who will be 37) a VW test and development season wont be ideal. You need to be doing the recce and rallies to be at the top in WRC, every year.

I read that VW will do all of the rallies next year with s2000 Fabias. So we will also need to think about someone who is willing to give up a WRC car for a year. I don't see many hands. Not even Al-Yattah. I think it will be a IRC boys.
9th September 2011, 07:09
rallyfiend

Quote:

Originally Posted by N.O.T

I do not think Ford has the money to pay Ogier...the 5 year plans needs all the help he needs when it comes to funding with zero personal sponsors.

If Ogier is contracted to Citroen next year, yet they want to get rid of him for the good of the team harmony, then Malcolm may not need to pay for him - Citroen would!
Malcolm may even have to be paid to accept him.

Stranger things have happened.
9th September 2011, 09:34
RS

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJW

Autosport report today growing rumours of a direct swap between Ogier and Hirvonen for 2012.

What's in the deal for Citroen? Have they become bored of winning too easily?
9th September 2011, 09:51
COD

Quote:

Originally Posted by RS

What's in the deal for Citroen? Have they become bored of winning too easily?

They get a nice, obeying, reliable no.2 driver who is the next Sordo for them. Can't win, but can take points for the team.
9th September 2011, 10:32
Barreis

Kimi Raikkonen excluded from World Rally Championship standings for skipping Australia - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com
9th September 2011, 13:53
AndyRAC

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barreis

Kimi Raikkonen excluded from World Rally Championship standings for skipping Australia - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com

Hmm, ridiculous, that's the way to attract more privateers.......
9th September 2011, 15:08
Franky

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyRAC

Hmm, ridiculous, that's the way to attract more privateers.......

I'm pretty sure it's about excluding the IceOne from the manufactures standings, so it really doesn't make much difference for a privateer who scores only drivers points.
9th September 2011, 22:28
Barreis

Kubica set to test in simulator or high-performance car - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com
10th September 2011, 01:34
Plan9

Did Citroen ever make a road going variant of the Xsara WRC car?
10th September 2011, 02:46
Zeakiwi

Do you mean four wheel drive with a turbo engine ?

Citroën Xsara - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
12th September 2011, 16:17
Barreis

World Rally Championship - News - Q&A: Hayden Paddon
13th September 2011, 02:27
sollitt

More speculation about Ogier to Ford ...
RallySport Magazine - EXCLUSIVE: Ogier set to join Ford for 2012 WRC
Not saying it's accurate.
13th September 2011, 03:11
N.O.T

LOL...

Good for him...

LOL...
13th September 2011, 09:36
traxx

New shots of the "real" Polo R WRC from Franckfurt Motor Show :
La Polo R WRC est prête
13th September 2011, 09:50
6789

Quote:

Originally Posted by traxx

New shots of the "real" Polo R WRC from Franckfurt Motor Show :
La Polo R WRC est prête

I get an error on the link :(
13th September 2011, 09:57
Mirek

Looks like Fabia inside (for example steering rack looks same) :)
13th September 2011, 10:25
mousti

Same joystick also :)
13th September 2011, 11:01
JTGANG

Quote:

Originally Posted by traxx

New shots of the "real" Polo R WRC from Franckfurt Motor Show :
La Polo R WRC est prête

Nice looking !!!!!
13th September 2011, 11:35
AndyRAC

Frankfurt show: Lotus Exige rally - Autocar.co.uk

Lotus Exige R-GT.....seerms a shame it's limited to 298BHP...and 1200kg...
14th September 2011, 22:25
cali

Markko Märtin will test Fiesta ahead of coming tarmac rounds
Ford-pomo keventää suomalaiskuskiensa taakkaa - MTV3.fi - Urheilu - Ralli - Uutiset
14th September 2011, 22:54
tfp

Quote:

Originally Posted by cali

Markko Märtin will test Fiesta ahead of coming tarmac rounds
Ford-pomo keventää suomalaiskuskiensa taakkaa - MTV3.fi - Urheilu - Ralli - Uutiset

Finally, a step in the right direction!!
14th September 2011, 23:43
mousti

Has this been posted yet?

World Rally Championship - News - Father’s praise for Wilson

If I saw the title I already stopped reading, just a waste of time..
14th September 2011, 23:48
N.O.T

Quote:

Originally Posted by mousti

Has this been posted yet?

World Rally Championship - News - Father’s praise for Wilson

If I saw the title I already stopped reading, just a waste of time..

what a disgrace....
14th September 2011, 23:58
focus206

Quote:

Originally Posted by mousti

Has this been posted yet?

World Rally Championship - News - Father’s praise for Wilson

If I saw the title I already stopped reading, just a waste of time..

and I see he talks about budget for next year... so it would be the 7th year of the 5-year-plan :D
14th September 2011, 23:59
N.O.T

Slowson makes me physically sick.....
15th September 2011, 00:04
Josti

Quote:

Originally Posted by mousti

Has this been posted yet?

World Rally Championship - News - Father’s praise for Wilson

If I saw the title I already stopped reading, just a waste of time..

Dirty stuff.
15th September 2011, 08:38
wildsir

He would be deserving of that praise....
If he'd done the rally in reverse...
He was feck*ng 9 minutes back!
15th September 2011, 10:38
sollitt

That's a good article. Justifiable praise for the young fella but not over the top. Hopefully he can get funding to continue.
15th September 2011, 12:47
cali

Ogier & Ford rumour no. II

Finnish news site MTV3.fi - Uutta koko ajan reports today that according to french news agency France24 contract between Ford & Ogier is done and waiting for signatures from both sides.

Ranskalaisväite: Ogierin Ford-sopimus jo valmiina - MTV3.fi - Urheilu - Ralli - Uutiset
15th September 2011, 13:02
Francis44

Wow I guess this Ogier Ford deal is really going to happen, there's no smoke without fire.
15th September 2011, 13:22
6789

Latvala and Ogier at Ford?? Awesome!
15th September 2011, 13:37
focus206

It would be great if it really happens... great for Ford at least, I don't know how can be great for Ogier...
15th September 2011, 13:38
Barreis

Maybe he's stupid. He got his chance this weekend but crashed out. What does he want now?! Ford is not good as citroen. He can go.
15th September 2011, 13:43
Hartusvuori

I would treat this information still more on the "rumours" part rather than "news". First I'd like to see the original piece from France24, and secondly we don't get to know about these deals until they're signed. If Ogier signs with Ford, fine, it would move things around a bit, but really - is he that dissatisfied with Citroen at the moment. We will know by Christmas.

However, MTV3 has interviewed Latvala on the possible move to Citroen. But this all is just talk to keep you warm.
15th September 2011, 14:09
Daniel

Quote:

Originally Posted by sollitt

That's a good article. Justifiable praise for the young fella but not over the top. Hopefully he can get funding to continue.

Are you serious? I'm not going to going to start being rude or get to using emotive language, but if Matthew wasn't Malcolm's son then he wouldn't be where he is and wouldn't get so much testing time to help him improve. Heck, Matty was involved in the development of the Fiesta S2000 and WRCar. I'm sorry, but a professional team just wouldn't have a driver who is as poor as Matthew developing their cars.
15th September 2011, 14:16
GigiGalliNo1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel

he wouldn't be where he is and wouldn't get so much testing time to help him improve.

Sorry, did Daniel say Mateusz Wilsonowisz "Help him improve"????

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