Rallye Wrc Monte Carlo 2012

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Originally Posted by danon

While watching a video I noticed a drawback
about the duration of Rally Monte Carlo 2012.
Can you imagine what will those superstitious
among the pilots will look like in five days not touching a razor blade, no shave at all... :D

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Don't start, that FIA nut will report Loeb again

Some photos of Roman Kasparek from third leg - Autosport

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/3...86ed11b9b0.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/0...09e28bcd74.jpg
http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/9...9d9a5e23fa.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/a...74d16087e1.jpg

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Originally Posted by tfp

Maybe you and Hartsuvuori could write an e-book, he spoke of writing a book about famous stages a while ago! :)

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As each rally is recorded and broadcasted live on TV,
why not to apply this very same idea to a Rallye-book
but created by spectators (not pros) texted (on-air) live from the stages.
Archive a copy of it for the history and one day it will make a bestseller.
We'll need an editor though. And someone to get all the bits and peaces assembled together.

Patented! :burnout:

Anyway, it was just another idea,
but I'm pretty sure that it's a matter
of time for someone to steal my thunder.

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Originally Posted by JAM

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Jean Todt made a strange comparison. Compare a WRC rally and a Historic Rally is looking to two completely different events. The drivers and teams from WRC and Historic are completely differente, the teams, even the costs are completely different.

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We are all aware they are 2 different events even if one is called a "bigger event" because of its WRC status .....but they are similar roads and conditions, similar format of stages and transits...
Rather than focus on the little differences, look at the similarities and think what is the reason why 350 crews--whatever their age and background, cough up quite high entry and expenses, insane costs to build FIA Historic cars mostly on their on dime.....
And barely 1/4 that can be motivated enough to scare up the money and a legal car for the "WRC"?

I say the missing element is the sense of a huge adventure. The old format of the Concentration run from all points of Europe in the middle of Winter built excitment---when conditions were bad as they could be when crews started in Oslo or Moskva, or Warsawa, just getting to Monte Carlo could be an adventure.
THEN the Great stages added to it.
Now the event, almost all with just 300 or maye 350km SS are like sprints and unless they are televised it seems only a small group of people WANT TO do the event---since all but maybe 6-7 guys know they have no chance of winning..
The Historic Monte, 350 want to do it and ALL of them know there is no Team Manager waiting at the final MTC with a contract.

They do it for the adventure...
[quote:2jbsy238]To start a discussion, the majority of historic drivers are people in the 50's and 60's with a lot of money and usually retired from work. By other words, the do the rally with one week, or teo or three week... Usually time spent is not a big problem to them. The amateur drivers that go to a WRC event, the ones that made the entry lists have 100 or 120 entreis, usually are not professional drivers and have limited time as well has limited budgets.

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I have been in that position. My choice was to not worry about Worlds Champignonskit, it is only about glory and i was not that good. My choice was to do events which paid good start money---and for me, were BIG ADVENTURES....

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The budget is also a problem. One more day on a WRC rally is much more expensive that one more day on a Historic rally.

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Of course, except the hotels and the food and the fuel for the service vehicle costs more or less the same

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To create a longer rally to have 3 stages per day is a strange option. Would be better a day less and two mores stages per day IMO.

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Yes I am puzzled about the shortness of SS done in "whole days", but it seems staying up past 10 is at night is asking too much of these "Super stars"..
Only God knows how much damage I must have done driving stages until after sun up in years past....it probably damaged my poor brain because now when I'm older I can't understand a lot of things today....like the Monte's format and low entries...

But I do know in all WRC events, in the same time period that they have become shorter and shorter, and the cars completely divorced from anything anybody, even big enthusiasts drive, and the adventure aspect decreased, so has entries crashed to fractions of what we saw in the 60s and 70s and even the 80s
Of course correlation is not causation and there are other factors at work---all the talk of how much rally needs instnt TV makes me also wonder how they had 350 cars entering in the 60s and 70s when there wasn't instant TV.

one more video

http://youtu.be/JM_jPKgGBTg

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Originally Posted by mousti

What I understand is that Ellegy formerly know as Cricketsfilm is doing a part of the coverage of Eurosport or maybe almost eveything that I don't know. But I know he's working now very close with Eurosport!

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Last night at 10:00pm I was flicking through the telly listings and I saw the WRC on Eurosport. Imagine my delight. Not been able to post on here or show any interest since Dave lost the WRC to ESPN. Now I can kind of get back into it.

Is this a season long coverage?

Autosport.cz video leg 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0QeL...layer_embedded

Pictures day 3 by rallyefreaks.de online!!!

http://www.rallyefreaks.de/images/sa...1327138241.jpg

http://www.rallyefreaks.de/images/sa...1327138246.jpg

<<< Fotos Rallye Monte Carlo Day 3>>>

Day 3 Highlights - Part 1 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVnTPNU_i_I
Day 3 Highlights - Part 2 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hLHd4MuD3w