Have they now gotten all the parts needed to get a couple of testcars put together?Quote:
Originally Posted by dupanton
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Have they now gotten all the parts needed to get a couple of testcars put together?Quote:
Originally Posted by dupanton
I'm not that close to the project :p I pick up stuff every now and then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
Target is to deliver first cars to customers in March '23 so should be. I know people who already ordered one as well :)
Ok perfect.
I was just comparing with Skodas project plan with S2000, R5 and Rally2. Lots of testing with many drivers on all conditions, to get a car that is easy to get adapted to most driving styles.
8-9 months goes fast, and then get ready to homologation with late adjustments.
But I guess everyone feels the corona + Russia invation + shipping on the log situation, and will delay.
June 1, no tests from Renault so far
Any news on when
maybe after summer now
they test
Splendid if you all post a link here to pictures and testfilms when they start to come out.Quote:
Originally Posted by br21
Very impressive pace by Virves in Rally Poland!
The car is showing its potential. Would be cool to see it with 32mm restrictor, but maybe then you will challenge reliability, and cost control.
They started their tests program in May or beginning of June, not sure. After a first run in Monthléry track, they moved to Château-Lastour to test on gravel with Jean-Sébastien Vigion & Andrea Crugnola. They are at the start on 8/9 intensive testing before homologation. They were happy with their first runs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
Next tests should have been on gravel too, in the Vosges.
https://www.autohebdo.fr/actualites/...episode-2.html
Very good, hopefully they bring in more drivers, with different driving styles as testers, so they end up with an easy car to set up on both surfaces.Quote:
Originally Posted by vino_93
Sarrazin, Bouffier, Guigou tested the Rally4 Clio outside of Vigion and the usual Renault/Alpine drivers, so I think some/all will be drafted in for this one as well.
I wonder if Toksport (Clio Trophy team) will play a role n testing and maybe running the cars in future ?
First testfilm, but not with enginesound.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u48ZoqOTY-A
I see that they are testing without a roof wing installed. Is that a normal way to start, or could they experience inbalance when they put it on the car?
I think they are at a phase where it doesnt really matter much, just testing component reliability and alltogether functionality. later when they go for performance testing, it will matter more I think.
What are the rumours?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Roma thread, Danny0405
Heard rumors about Benoit Nogier (customer competition leader) to be sidelined.Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan
If true (it’s only something I heard by a person knowing a bit the business but not in the brand itself, so it’s why I’m only talking about rumors), it may imply some changes in the strategy because Nogier was the one who build the current Rally strategy of the brand.
I don’t say it will have an impact on Rally3 (don’t know one side or another) but maybe at least on the formula series by Clio or things like that.
Any more news on the Clio Rally3 or Benoit Nogiers roles?
18-year-old Max McRae, son of Alister and nephew of the famous Colin, tested Ford Fiesta Rally3 in Poland last week. He would like to run a Junior WRC campaign in 2023. More about it here:
https://www.wrc.com/en/news/2022/jun...r-wrc-in-2023/
https://youtu.be/K_C3jSJDYC8Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
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- Sounds different than the Fiesta.
- Suspension needs more work
- Strange they test without a rear roof spoiler, even if it is less efective than Rally2 spoiler, it will affect road holding.
Good they are testing. They need a Fiesta to compare :-)
Are any nations planning to make Rally3 top class?
For sure not. There is no sense to do it as there is Rally2.Quote:
Originally Posted by M5
Probably same test, but different filmmaker.
Test Renault Clio Rally3 - Franceschi Jean Baptiste https://youtu.be/u4LvGsXCma4 via @YouTube
Rally 3 class highlights from Acropolis Rally
https://youtu.be/6Q0BN-CpTtI
Is any 2 hand Rally 3 fiestas coming for sale after season?
What guess you they be advertet to?
I guess this year's JWRC cars might be up for sale by M-Sport Poland? Might be worth sending them an email?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordini
Lets see what MSport want for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by ouvreur
If a typical new Rally3 they sell to customers will be 100 000 for a base car + extra equipment 30-40 000 euro.
So after a year in JWRC they should maybe be sold for 80-100 000€ depending on how much extra "nice to have"
equipment they have.
Have anyone seen more news from Renault on testing, also on gravel, and a definitive homologation date?
Renault Clio Rally3
https://twitter.com/ewrcresults/stat...QAhbTwHZqy2Hsg
So FIA wants 4 brands in Rally3, so 2 more than the two we know of so far.
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/fia-w...ers-in-rally3/
What are they doing to move towards that goal?
Do R3 need an other mm big restrictor?
20 more hp is good.
I dont know, but Toyota should be well onto Rally3 with having the best road car for one already in the 4wd GR Yaris.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
Rally3. R3 is something different.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpine-110
Yes from a sales perspective, a GR Yaris Rally3 kit would be perfect both from a rally and roadcar perspective.
The starting point from a GR Yaris is better than the old Gr N cars.
At some stage maintenence cost will start to rise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpine-110
At least 50% less maintenence budget than a Rally2 is important for a lot of privateers.
Not sure if 1 mm more is enough to start that spiral, maybe the tech spesialists here have more to add.
Not sure, as the rally car would have less power than the road car, also it would make more sense to make the rally3 car based on a normal yaris (cheaper body parts)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
Why? And Why?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
Cause the evo and Impreza crowd need a new car to woow. The gr N cars are soon youngtimers.
The GR Yaris has a well funtionimg aftermarket tuner market. Several cups with different tuning are also around.
A Rally3 that looks like the new Rally2 car that is just shown in Japan, would be a nice addition to the family!
Renault Clio Rally3 looks good
https://twitter.com/ewrcresults/stat...-uoZJPmj4jmvLQ
Really Good!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira