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I think the organisers have made their bed and will have to face up to heavy repair bills for these stages, to try and run them anyway (for one day at least). Cant see how we won't see some cancelled stages though, and lots of moaning and groaning from teams, drivers, media, organisers and fans.
Does make you think binning the rally last week would've been the best all round decision? At least it would maybe resemble a more professional/ measured decision, instead of the chaos I worry we will see this weekend :(
If there already weren't 2 cancelled rallies within 6 months they'd call Sweden off. But there were, so pressure is on to run something.
From a spectator point of view it's much better to watch them run on frozen gravel than to not have a rally. Drivers should adapt. So the only ones I really pity is the organizers.
If they can rally on road tyres in USA and Canada they should be fine, some of the twisty sections in the shade on Hof still had thick ice and 20cm snowbanks so might last ok until TZ.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sal the 2nd
Any pics of tyres from Saturday in 2016?
10 times more dangerous driving on slicks in MC in my opinion.
Wow that is horrible. Hope nothing bad happens and we still have a proper rally Sweden next year.
Any locations in Hof-Finnskog that can be accessed with decent ice layer etc for viewing?Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
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Some funny note here. In 2010 or 2011 Prague Rallysprint was held on snow while studs are not allowed in CZ at all. The obvious question was which tyres to pick. There were many strategies like Michelin MC tyres without studs (that didn't work at all), stock Nokian tyres with additional hand cuts, old narrow Matador snow tyres without studs (these actually existed in rather soft compound) or 30 years old Barum pattern from gr.B times which is still produced in a form of cheap remould tyres. In the end it was very interesting to see how each team can cope with those conditions and how picking a remould tyre for 30 Euro could make you 1-2 s/km faster than the JWC on MC Michelins.Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPWDGEp8LlE From 24:00 Last day. Not even frozen gravel.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
However much more icy roads Friday/Saturday
Nope. They have ice/gravel crews and they are crawling on those icy sections.Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
Form guide by dirtfish https://www.dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/r...en-form-guide/
Impreza, Lancer...... great rally cars (compared to today's go carts).Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Which a lot of the time wasn't correct two hours later anyway, Neuville crawling in SS2....?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tauri_J
It's not the full icy sections i mean but the patchy fast stuff with big drops is sketchy! No big drops in Sweden...
Rallirinki / Teemu
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Comparison pictures from the same corners between the situation now and how we'd like to see @RallySweden
. Looks wrong. #WRC
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I don't remember everything, try and get a hold of a recce video?Quote:
Originally Posted by DocMS
The big difference is that 97 it had been cold very long time before the rally so the ground was frozen deep. Remember that there was parking on a frozen lake as well as transport by tractor and trolley over a lake (could it have been on the Rämen?)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
So the ice must have been thick.
https://youtu.be/uY_U5jKmRj0?t=684Quote:
Originally Posted by MTA
In this onboard you can see people spectating on the ice. Here's the same place this year (what would have been Hagfors)
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Originally Posted by dimviii
Tänak and Latvala should have the cleanest gravel road :D
Will the organisers be proactive and arrange a calendar date for mid-summer next year? Sweden to be the event before the summer break and then resume with Finland.
Ooo, Oliver on Pirelli. That’s a surprise, works Skoda normally run on Michelin.
If we talk about this seriously for a whileQuote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
If there's still any icy sections on the road, there won't be any snow on those sections. Thus Neuville will get to attack that fresh ice with his studs. With every car, it will get more slushy and dirty. The gravel will pull through more with every car and the studs will break more. However, the gravely corners will be faster than if they were icy, if the drivers can see the conditions and trust in the grip. But if there's a clearly icy part and they have lost their studs, they will lose time. Another factor is that if the road will wear out quickly and get rutted, the later runners will suffer. The road could also be difficult for the first car on Saturday, but the starting order is reversed by then.
I’ve been trying to think who will have the advantage in conditions for Friday, but there are so many variables that I think the answer is it could be anybody!Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Pirelli inserts the studs while the tyre is moulded so they will stick better. It could be crucial in these conditions. Veiby and Gryazin are also on Pirellis.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
‘Skoda Motorsport Customer Racing’ ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
says sticker in trucks
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Snowing near SS4!
A lesson learned. Next time just pray to the weather Gods for snow.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Guys, I understand that your blood pressure is through the roof, but relax :)
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Likenas, twitter Ostberg.
The Solberg Clan loves Pirelli!Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
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SS Finnskogen today. Not so bad conditions as I thought. Lovely stage.
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The pics I see posted today here and on Twitter look a lot more better than previous days. Let’s hope it stays so.
I would assume it stays like this over Friday. The weekend will be tougher, although I think the morning stages shouldn't be a problem, but it depends on how the roads are after the first run (and of course how the weather actually turns out)Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
A good freeze forecast on Thursday night should see a Friday stages run ok. Hopefully not too much rutting and they should stay good for Saturday with a slight freeze overnight.
Oooh, Neuville suddenly the snow plough.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Will be interesting to see what it's like come friday morning though.
WRC RALLY SWEDEN WEATHER REPORT!
SS3/6 🇳🇴 Finnskogen - 20,68km total
Overall good icy road conditions, but in the middle of the stage 7-9km pure gravel section 😬
If it was driven today.Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
New GR Yaris will be 0-car in this weekends Rally Sweden.
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