Rallye WRC Monte Carlo 2019

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24th January 2019, 20:45
olemann

Quote:

Originally Posted by smsgrafica

With nearly 1 and a half years experience with this car, 6 full WRC seasons with top notch machinery, he still is slower than a pensioner who just came back from Dakar and only drove the car on a single day before the rally.

If you feel it's an acceptable performance, then it means that we just see things very differently.

Sorry. I didn't realize you were from Italy
24th January 2019, 20:46
Mirek

Sarrazin lost loads of time on SS2. He was third after SS1.
24th January 2019, 20:48
dimviii

Suninen and Rovanpera crash
https://youtu.be/a0I5SnrI3ww
24th January 2019, 20:49
Barreis

so, two Jouhki's drivers kissed the ditch in first 5km of SS1
24th January 2019, 20:52
mknight

From the crash it looks like Suninen should be able to rejoin tomorrow.
24th January 2019, 20:58
smsgrafica

Quote:

Originally Posted by olemann

Sorry. I didn't realize you were from Italy

???
24th January 2019, 21:01
Essaj

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimviii

Suninen and Rovanpera crash
https://youtu.be/a0I5SnrI3ww

Won't be the last time Kalle is going to be touching a new generation WRC. Hopefully it happens some other way in the future :D
24th January 2019, 21:01
able1

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimviii

seems that NOT will be very busy this year.
too much bullshit guys for just 2 stages.

can't agree more
24th January 2019, 21:02
COD

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Originally Posted by gorganl2000

i really don't think the gamble was worth it so early in this rally. There is so much to play for on the many stages and the rallies to come, so no need to take unnecessary risks so early on the very first stage of the season.

I like his attitude. Gamble, trying to win!
24th January 2019, 21:09
dimviii

Meeke thinks that maybe there is a problem with rims for his puncture at shake and stage 2

https://www.facebook.com/73209345358...5797374885765/
24th January 2019, 21:13
COD

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimviii

Suninen and Rovanpera crash
https://youtu.be/a0I5SnrI3ww

Strange that with so many spectators they couldn’t get Suninen’s car off the ditch
24th January 2019, 21:15
Mirek

Quote:

Originally Posted by COD

Strange that with so many spectators they couldn’t get Suninen’s car off the ditch

Maybe police played a role...
24th January 2019, 21:16
Myrvold

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Originally Posted by Entertainer

Oh please...down boy... Pontus could push MUCH harder, hopefully we will se some more pace this weekend, but
- first time in the car
- only been to Monte once before
- less mileage in the car than anyone else in the WRC-field
- its fucking MONTE, nightmare to debut on
- night stage..on ice.
- With Suninen out its even more important that he stays within striking distance of the places 5-10 to get points for M-sport.

In addition, while not easy to hear as commentators are talking over the driver & co-driver post-stage conversation (extremely frustrating). I heard Ola Fløene say something about not being at his best yet. I think, that he might've said something about not being up to the speed he'd like, and that the notes are a bit to detailed for the speed when he has been out of WRC for the time he has. He needs to get more in to the rythm as well.

So it's like the plan. Use Monte Carlo solely as a place to get to know the car and team and get mileage. Call it a glorified test if you like.
24th January 2019, 21:17
fisulino

Quote:

Originally Posted by COD

Strange that with so many spectators they couldn’t get Suninen’s car off the ditch

there were too many yellow west (gilet jaune) ;-)
24th January 2019, 21:18
dimviii

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Originally Posted by Mirek

Maybe police played a role...

that exactly they said at French forum.Police didnt allow them to help
24th January 2019, 21:18
deephouse

Quite boring stage. Neuville dominate it and still lack behind the competition. Meeke had a puncture and Loeb perform very bad. Mikkelsen as usual lately still thinking that he choose right. Lappi, Latvala underperform both. Evans, well nothing special. And again Tanak the best out of his drive. Apparently there was one particular corner when almost everyone drive like they had two punctures. The biggest loser here is again Neuville with his tyre choice for first stage. If he would take it differently or at least close to others then he would be closer to the top. I mean probably wouldn't beat unbeatable Tanak but still few secs closer.

Have someone else noticed Tanak at the final sector of second stage how he brutally attack jumps and have hard lands? And I thought that I saw puncture on his left front wheel when he was interviewed.
24th January 2019, 21:28
mknight

I actually think both Lappi and Ogier are doing very well considering this kind of changing conditions is what C3 is supposed to be worst at, specially comparing Lappi to Latvala
24th January 2019, 21:31
TypeR

Don't think Malcolm is very happy about Kalle hitting Suninens car from the back.. with all the diffuser and aero parts, easily extra 20k+ euros damage
24th January 2019, 21:31
Rally Power

lol, only able to follow from SS2 and All Live immediately crashes!

Still 300 stage kms to run but I was hoping to see the others closer to the usual top 3. Nice to see Bonato leading WRC2, with Ciamin and De Mevius pretty close. Fourmaux, the new French prodigy, already impressing on his first MC and second ever R5 outing.

Bring on Friday SS’s...and a full working All Live!
24th January 2019, 21:32
deephouse

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Originally Posted by mknight

I actually think both Lappi and Ogier are doing very well considering this kind of changing conditions is what C3 is supposed to be worst at, specially comparing Lappi to Latvala

Citroen was made for tarmac from the start and was born on it. We will see on gravel. Lappi was concered already even if he wasn't compete on it with that car.
24th January 2019, 21:34
GravelBen

Quote:

Originally Posted by deephouse

Citroen was made for tarmac from the start and was born on it. We will see on gravel.

I think it was mostly bumps that seemed to upset the C3 and make it unpredictable, grip changes not such a problem if the surface is relatively smooth.
24th January 2019, 21:34
Tarmop

On pure tarmac yes, not ice- snow-asphalt mixture.
24th January 2019, 21:44
mknight

Quote:

Originally Posted by deephouse

Citroen was made for tarmac from the start and was born on it. We will see on gravel. Lappi was concered already even if he wasn't compete on it with that car.

Both in 2018 and 2017 C3 had serious issues on Monte Tarmac while it did well on the other rallies.

For the rallies after Monte it was 2nd in Sweden last year, 3rd and fighting for win with 2 drivers in Mexico. So I'd be first concerned about Argentina if I was Lappi, and that's a few months away.
24th January 2019, 21:46
GravelBen

Meeke was 4th at Monte with it last year and won the powerstage, thats not so bad even if it wasn't a very consistent rally.

It was the only car not overheating in Mexico IIRC.
24th January 2019, 21:51
tomhlord

Three different drivers in three different cars at the top of the field. Happy days.
24th January 2019, 21:52
steve.mandzij

How's the weather looking for tomorrow?
24th January 2019, 21:52
KKS

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Originally Posted by Eric

Yes. Seeing it now Ogier did the only smart thing - stay the hell away from Hyundai. I actually think the i20 can ruin Mikkelsens career. Cant see anyone signing him next year if he keeps going like he did last year. A shame. The guy has proven to be a top driver in the right car.

a proved-uber-top car up him to top3 drivers in that era (3rd from 3)
24th January 2019, 21:54
mknight

Quote:

Originally Posted by GravelBen

Meeke was 4th at Monte with it last year and won the powerstage, thats not so bad even if it wasn't a very consistent rally.

It was the only car not overheating in Mexico IIRC.

He inherited 4 after multiple drivers dropped due to other issues than speed. Powerstage was completely dry.

Everyone except Citroen had overheating issues in Mexico 2017. In 2018 only Toyota had.
24th January 2019, 21:55
able1

Quote:

Originally Posted by COD

Strange that with so many spectators they couldn’t get Suninen’s car off the ditch

Car looks to be too deep in that ditch i doubt fans could have been able to help
24th January 2019, 21:58
Tauri_J

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Originally Posted by steve.mandzij

How's the weather looking for tomorrow?

dry
24th January 2019, 21:59
KKS

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mirek

Maybe police played a role...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itpnb3hkS3o

you are right!
24th January 2019, 22:04
Mirek

Quote:

Originally Posted by GravelBen

I think it was mostly bumps that seemed to upset the C3 and make it unpredictable, grip changes not such a problem if the surface is relatively smooth.

Today's stages, especially the first one, were very bumpy.
24th January 2019, 22:24
GravelBen

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mirek

Today's stages, especially the first one, were very bumpy.

Thanks - I haven't seen it yet, I'm stuck at work!
24th January 2019, 22:32
Mullen

Does anyone know who the ice crews are this year?
24th January 2019, 22:33
Essaj

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Originally Posted by Mullen

Does anyone know who the ice crews are this year?

They are mentioned somewhere in this thread. Maybe have a look =)
24th January 2019, 22:40
Mullen

I went back to page 40, I’ll try again. Thanks.
24th January 2019, 22:52
Mirek

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mullen

Does anyone know who the ice crews are this year?

So that You don't need to search too deep (sorry that I don't give credits to the original poster, I copied from elsewhere where it was easier to find)...

Quote:

Sébastien Ogier - Simon Jean-Joseph
Teemu Suninen - Juuso Pykälistö
Kris Meeke - Stephen Whitford
Pontus Tidemand - Emil Bergkvist
Ott Tänak - Martin Kangur
Jari-Matti Latvala - Toni Gardemeister
Thierry Neuville - Bruno Thiry
Sébastien Loeb - Patrick Magaud
Elfyn Evans - Gwyndaf Evans
Gus Greensmith - Antoine L'Estage
Andreas Mikkelsen - Bernt Kollevold
Esapekka Lappi - Mikko Heikkila
24th January 2019, 22:58
Fast Eddie WRC

Quote:

Originally Posted by KKS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itpnb3hkS3o

you are right!

And so were the police. Fans would be right in the firing line if helping Teemu.
24th January 2019, 23:07
Essaj

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

And so were the police. Fans would be right in the firing line if helping Teemu.

that's why you have marshals or a speactator to caution the upcoming drivers 100 meters before the "accident site"
25th January 2019, 00:01
able1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Essaj

that's why you have marshals or a speactator to caution the upcoming drivers 100 meters before the "accident site"

suninens car did not block the road, why should next driver pay for teemus mistake

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