Such a shame the first two stages were cancelled... I wonder what the difference would be had they been run.
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Such a shame the first two stages were cancelled... I wonder what the difference would be had they been run.
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Fri 18:17 - SS5: Bertelli
The Italian completes and explains his earlier problem. "We had to stop on El Chocolate because we had a very high temperature alarm. We had no radio signal so we stopped and waited 30 minutes to get a signal. Then we continued with the safer mode."
this http://sport.bt.com/tv-guide-01363810618853 says it is live from 3amQuote:
Originally Posted by KKS
Problems to Paddon
and big ones (
relive of SS1Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
yeahhhh, shameQuote:
Originally Posted by svstock
tv4 website
A nightmare season start for paddon
great tune... rally radio
what a mess
seems sordo wasn't allowed to complete the stage
Hyundai: At the start of SS7 we have a misfiring issue on all 3 #i20CoupeWRC cars. More to follow... #WRC #RallyMexico
20s lead for Meeke then, he's unlucky the first loop was cancelled otherwise it could have been more comfortable
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and you need a brain insideQuote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
y tu deberías usar tus dedos para metertelos en otro ladoQuote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Como diriamos en Argentina: cerrá el ortoQuote:
Originally Posted by rayh_mx
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What happened to Toyota ? no more fluke results for them on proper rallies ? oooooohhh that is sad.
Lets see if Neuville can win this.
Actually, common mechanical issues due to the rough Mexican conditions. It's to be expected from a brand new team, entering in brand new regulations, with little high altitude and high temperature testing, one would reckon. Simple minds like yours would attribute their results to luck, but why waste our time trying to convince you otherwise, kid?Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
so Ogier just 20 secs down from Meeke despite the problems and starting position, my money is on him to win
so a fluke result on special events is a great success and proof that they are not garbage but when they flop due to amateurs in the team its expected because they are a new team.Quote:
Originally Posted by steve.mandzij
We are talking toyota here not some 3rd party manufacturer of dog food.
how many times VW had problems on their first year ?
VW was the exception to the rule. How long did Hyundai take to make a competitive car?Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
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I think when it comes to manufacturers Toyota should be compared to VW not Hyundai... Hyundai is nothing compared to toyota from every point of view.Quote:
Originally Posted by steve.mandzij
but that is what you get when you hire nationalistic amateurs to run a team.
The rally is still long though, meeke and neuville can very easily throw everything away.
VW still is a special case. Also keep in mind that they dedicated the entire team to WRC. As far as I know TGR is also involved in WEC. A win on their second event is nothing short of spectacular. Had Loeb not crashed in MC in 2013 VW wouldn't have won. Fair enough, maybe the same can be said for Sweden, but still. After their results so far it's extremelyunfair to call them an amateur nationalistic village team. They're clearly serious and surprisingly diverse.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
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Last time I checked both of their cars were running, 4th and 8th, after some 80+ kms of special stages. Guess it's too hard for a ####### like yourself to understand that the rally has only just started.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Anyone know why Sordo is reported as broken down after the first sss?
Edit: ok found it now... I can't imagine it was only misfire though. It would take more than that not to be allowed to complete a stage.
El Chocolate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BYWKTNf32s
Overheating problems started very early in the stage, so it was not related to lenght of the stage. As most of them had less issues in final part of the long stage also. It was mostly related to not efficient cooling package for the mapping they use. Of course in combination with stage (slow, twisty) and weather (hot, high altitude) conditions. Another thing which means about not efficient cooling is that they mostly reached around 120degC water temp and it stayed around it. Some paid more attention to it and stopped or slowed, or changed to road mode to turn off ALS, some just observed it and still drove, of course with less power, etc. So I think teams didn't estimate properly how far they can go with mapping for such conditions and based on efficiency of their cooling packages. Also with such altitude and temperatures fuel evaporates which can cause the problems, especially when not a lot of fuel in the tank. So it can cause starting issues and misfiring, maybe it was the case of Hyundai cars.
I don't know how it's managed in current WRC cars, but in older ones and some R5 cars when you switch to road mode and still try to push engine was overheating even more, as that map was not designed to push. So in case of temp problems you need to just turn off ALS but remain with stage mode. Otherwise even bigger problems.
Good morning one and all - so looking forward to a REAL day of rallying.Quote:
Originally Posted by steve.mandzij
Steve - Loeb won RMC in 2013 as Ogier was cautious and came second. Loeb crashed in 2014 in his 'favorite events only' year, probably because he finally found himself under pressure from a driver who is his equal and a better car!
If we had seen 2 circuits yesterday my money would have been on Ogier to have pulled time back when there was no sweeping effect. Amazing to me that Latvala still can never capitalise on his position after 2 good rallies. I hope Kris can turn this advantage to a win AND then follow up in the next few events. Very interesting season but I stand by my crystal ball that says Ogier won't need to go to Australia.
It was 2015, when Loeb lost the battle to Ogier in MC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
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My bad - got it wrong (quick edit) I should have remembered as 2014 was the year Iwas there! Doh!Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
2013 was Loeb's year with favourite rallies, he has won 2- Monte and Argentina, came 2-nd in Sweden and crashed on the last one in France.
Loeb crashed in 2015 when doing Monte as one off.
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Thanks - see apology and retraction above!!Quote:
Originally Posted by rage82
Bartek I would expect, that their software, will shut off als automatically, as their temp raised at 120 degrees,and not be drivers choice if they will close als, or continue to drive with raised water temp and als on.Quote:
Originally Posted by br21
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6ncsJWU0AA97xd.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6mxQWJVoAAHcuF.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6nzViwVoAAn2UD.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6n9JyLWwAAWPXk.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6m8LOWVAAABvVc.jpg
http://www.diariomotor.com/competici...Sordo-2017.jpg
Hyundai video
https://youtu.be/wOqBEF-aodg
wrc2
https://youtu.be/hhZU0dn9nzo
wrc highlights
https://youtu.be/svEv8Mc7dGQ
Good morning to you yourself. Exciting day to come.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
So what should he capitalise on starting first on the road? Let´s wait and see next two days. After that we talk.
In general software turns off ALS automatically when EGT temperature is too high and it's not considering water or oil temp for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Michelin slow motion video
https://youtu.be/Cfnu3XbcmLQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDy5P4lN7vQ
strange for a factory team.Our mapper have also for water temps and oil/fuel pressure.Quote:
Originally Posted by br21
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6nupWRWgAAVNIl.jpg
more
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