That should add an extra element of excitement! 2 guys in the same car..Quote:
Originally Posted by MrJan
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What could possibly go wrong?
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That should add an extra element of excitement! 2 guys in the same car..Quote:
Originally Posted by MrJan
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What could possibly go wrong?
:D I think we're more likely to see that in F1 :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
Would be better to see Marcus drive!Quote:
Originally Posted by jbmarcus21
Has Rallycross always been this incestuous_Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
I'm sorry but it sure seems remarkable that the teenage sons of a whole bunch of team principles are all “discovered“ to be Whirled Champignonskit material...
Sucked when Malconm Wilson did it. Seems to be the norm in rallycross...
Why do I not get interested in any race where its some child driving---children can't afford this so the fact they do means forunes are being poured over little boys head who haven't proven anything except a relationship to somebody who was something..
This stuff taints what they did..
Depends on the child though. Matt Wilson, not very good (his old man wasn't that great). Kevin Hansen, clearly pretty good even compared to his old man. Likewise Elfyn Evans in rallying, has achieved much more than his dad did, as has Jenson ButtonQuote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
The Wilsons are good in team management.. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by MrJan
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Marcus, son of Finnish Rally Champion Ulf Grönholm.
Yes, at least the half of all racedrivers has a family background in motorsport. Some fathers/mothers/whoever were more successful, others less. Otherwise there wouldn't be so much talents...
Gronholm plays down expectations on son's World Rallycross season
http://www.autosport.com/news/report...x-expectations
Talentis not genetic..It cannot be inherited..Money and connections are easily "inherited"Quote:
Originally Posted by JUF
Point forgotten is the its not that all these old guys who I respected are helping in some way their own sons--it is that they are electing to place their sons into seats fighting for the WORLD championship..when obviously no 17 year old can be imagined to have earned much of anything in life yet..Much less to "jump ahead of the class" with no real test---except paternity test...
In makes a complete farce that the title winner is Champion of the World.
Instead a win becomes "Merely a winner of a little incestuous gang of friends.." who have been gifted millions of dollars of resource NOT because what they did, but what Daddy did..
Yeah other car motorsport is infested with this..
I pay no attention to other CAR motorsports...because of it.
In Rallycross it is a bit extreme at the moment though. Johan Kristoffersen, Robin Larsson, Hansen & Hansen, Eriksson, Grönholm are all young sons of prominent ex-rallycrossers. Of course Mathias Ekström and Liam Doran are also sons of rallycrossers, while mediocore talent Anton Marklund drives in his fathers team...Quote:
Originally Posted by JUF
The Euro RX looks more interesting this year in my opinion. A variety of cars and interesting drivers. Hopefully they actually get some coverage this year as the heats and finals are now seperated from the world rx.
Eriksson, Hansen and Hansen are proven to be pretty good though (although no doubt daddy's wallet plays a part), Larsson and Kristoffersen are also solid RX drivers. Just because someone's dad did a sport does not mean that they are no good. Take Valentino Rossi, his dad was a motorcycle racer. Colin McRae, his dad was a rally driver. Both of these have surpassed the achievements of their fathers. Yes there are a lot of rallycross drivers who followed their father into the sport, but arguably that's because it's not as straightforward or easy to get into as other forms. My nearest kart circuit is 20 minutes drive, the nearest car circuit is 2 hours, my nearest rallycross circuit is 5 hours away. I can name loads of race circuits in the UK but can only name 4 RX circuits, so clearly it's just not as widespread a sport.
The Solberg Clan is also coming into motorsports higher levels.
Pontus, Oscar and Oliver are climbing the ladder!
I did not say anything about their quality as a rallycross driver. It is just weird that the drivers I saw racing in the '90s and '00s now have their sons racing. Also interesting to see that all the sons (except Doran) are Swedes. Perhaps it has something to do with their culture/interest at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrJan
Grönholm is only swedish speaking not Swede.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lousada
Not entirely correct. Marcus is half Swedish (or Finland Swede if you wish) since his mother is Swedish so that would make his son at least 1/4 Swedish.Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
So Finnish nationality but with a Swedish heritage.
Topi announced as driving alongside Ekstrom at EKSRX. Sounds like Ekstrom himself won't be doing every round, hopefully they get someone decent to sit in for him when he can't make it.
Liam to JRM.
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And in a 2.0 MINI !! :D
Interesting, although I had a feeling that the whole SDRX team hadn't quite clicked. Guy Wilks obviously did well at Lydden last year with the 1.6, but JRM will need to dial out the understeer if Liam s going to have any hope of being near the front. Hopefully this also doesn't scupper any chance of Wilks getting another cameo appearance, would be nice to have some Brits to support when I go to Lydden.
In Monster livery.. (back to Parking Lot Rallycross Championship days)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Dont suppose the Mini will be ready for Lydden this weekend ? Will Doran be there in his DS3 ?
Edit: He's in the C4.
Honda GRC announced at New York Show.
https://youtu.be/kSQhbdGCyhg?t=34m
With Olsbergs..
Why they didn't use that for WRX..?
Probably because Coupe is USA only model and current 5-door Civic is old-model (new one will come september-october)Quote:
Originally Posted by Arnold Triyudho Wardono
Full 2016 Supercar entry list:
http://media.rallycrossrx.com/docs/W...drivers%20.pdf
That is just the list of drivers doing the full championship, others will join in entering individual events...
Interview with Petter Solberg – about Loeb, RX, WRC and new season… (use Google translate)
http://ru.motorsport.com/world-rx/ne...ernike-682135/
Tragoogled into english
https://translate.google.com/transla...-text=&act=url
2016 RX Montalegre Supercar entry:
23 cars :D
http://media.rallycrossrx.com/docs/P...try%20List.pdf
Is Niclas Grönholm, son of Marcus, doing a full season in World Rallycross this year?
He is indeed, with OMSE alongside Kevin Eriksson.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wim_Impreza
Block been testing the new Mk3 Focus RS RX this week...
http://autoguide.com.vsassets.com/bl...ocus-RS-RX.png
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfXThFPW4AAUnVj.jpg:large
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...z.jpg~original
OMSE announcement tomorrow :)
Colors of OMSE 2016 http://planetemarcus.com/les-jeunes-...se-sont-prets/
Loeb testing 208RX http://goo.gl/gvxRIo
Nitiss unveiled new Seat Ibiza RX by Münnich Motorsport
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfhdItPWcAAQk2V.jpg
An interview with Loeb: http://www.svt.se/sport/motorsport/m...varldsmastare/
No real surprises there, the red/white colour scheme is the Oldsberg standard livery.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbmarcus21
Yep, and I think the 'highlights' (which is usually a catch up on the heats-sorry, 'qualifying', and then the semis and finals in full) will be on ITV4 in the week too. Exciting stuff to have a whole season live on normal telly, I hope that it attracts new viewers to the sport because I really like it so happy to see it get a bit stronger (not too strong though, one of the main attractions is affordability.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sal the 2nd