The same reason you can't just change the manufacturing location of any product on a moments notice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valve Bounce
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The same reason you can't just change the manufacturing location of any product on a moments notice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valve Bounce
When you have a 10% failure rate for an update, and roughly half of the failed updates brick phones, that's kind of hard to deny, right? But Microsoft *tried* to put a spin on their press release too, by saying that "90% of the WP7 phones successfully updated." In my world, a 1 in 10 failure rate would mean that you better start updating your resume ASAP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
"Stuff happens" when speaking of any manufactured product. So I'm not trying to single Microsoft out. But it is simply a fact that Apple has the highest customer retention rate in the mobile phone market, as well as the highest customer satisfaction rating.
Microsoft is trying really hard to (re)establish itself in the mobile phone market. I don't think MSFT is doing a bad job with WP7 thus far, and I've heard more positives than negatives about the WP7 platform. But it's not an easy market to get into, what with all of the different OS's and makers vying for attention. So any stumble hurts a smaller player more than it would a well established player. It also doesn't help when one of the biggest players (Verizon/Vodaphone) takes a swipe at your platform, and the recent MSFT/Nokia partnership:
Verizon Communications Chief Technology Officer Tony Melone:
To be truly successful here (or anywhere), I think Microsoft is going to have to build better relationships with carriers, so that they'll feature WP7 phones... because that's who makes the difference here. If MSFT spends any amount of time just trying to point out iPhone negatives, the WP7 platform will end up dying on the vine, just as their Zune has. Right now, I'd say the iPhone is the Mercedes of the mobile phone market - and Android is sort of like Ford/GM/Honda (more of a mass marketshare player). And just like in the auto market, there is room for others. But MSFT better start doing a better job of courting carriers or they're going to be left on the sidelines.Quote:
"I do want a strong third OS out there. It gives the carriers more flexibility and balances the interests of all the parties. But I still have doubts whether Microsoft will get the traction they are hoping for with Windows Phone 7."
"I don't think Verizon needs the Nokia and Microsoft relationship. Right now the three OS players we see for our network are Android, Apple, and RIM."
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Originally Posted by Valve Bounce
Exactly. When a major component of any supply chain is disrupted, it takes some amount of time to move tools, prepare facilities, hire and train workers, etc. And that's assuming that the same company is involved in both locations. If not, then things like intellectual property come into play. And if moving production to China (of all places), I'd say that would be a MAJOR concern. Apple may own the component designs in many/most cases... but the suppliers likely own the processes. From what I've read, Apple will get chips and other components (from Japan) even if others don't, because Apple has advance purchase agreements in place with many of its suppliers. But if a factory is down, then nobody gets components. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out for the various electronics players (with all due respect to the human tragedy of the quake). I just read that first week sales of the iPad2 have already exceeded 1 million units: roughly four times the sales rate of the original iPad (which took about a month to hit 1 million units). One major analyst (Gene Munster) estimated March quarter sales of 5.5 million units. But I don't see how that can happen if flash memory, DRAMs, batteries and overlay glass supplies stay throttled for much longer. Apple reportedly has 2-3 weeks of component supplies in the pipeline. But after that... :dozey:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Well, there's a helluva lot coming out of China these days. The tablet that I had was the latest ASK822SP 3G (whatever all that means) with a dual core processor, made in China but designed in Japan. Apple's shortage of Ipads from Japan will only fuel the sale of Androids from China. Mine had a flash player which Apple's didn't, and it also had a better browser capability than Apple's. When these products come out at less than half the next generation Apple's price, they will sell like hot cakes in China and probably much of the far east, a significant market that is probably not in the Western world's stats.
I also understand there is or will be one helluva price war on laptops and netbooks, with many stores offering significant discounts. I also noticed that Costco's laptop counter has been half cleared of products, so I suspect new laptops or netbooks will be put on display shortly.
Why are you using your wife's phone extensively? Do you have ulterior motives which you wish to share with us?Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
If it doesn't have a fruit logo on it some people won't be interested in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
Equally, if it has an apple logo some people still won't be interested in it. :p
Do balls count?
I have an ipod touch and it's been no bother at all - loads of great apps, some which are free. Now I'm due for a phone upgrade and can't decide which smartphone to get. Did think of the iphone as it's easy to transfer all my music to - but I'm not paying the price for one. So now I'm wondering what to get. HTC always get a good write up, and the Samsung Galaxy Ace/S seem decent too. Whichever is easier to transfer my music files from itunes is the one I'd choose.
AndyRAC, you say you have quite a lot of apps for your Ipod touch of which some are free. This means that you have obviously paid for and invested in apps to whatever extent. If you were to buy a different make of smartphone one would assume that you might re-invest in quite possibly the the same apps again. Its not something I've ever looked into but I assume that Apple designed apps are not transferable to other mobile platforms. Whether this is down to Apple or the individual app designers I have no idea. I'm sure Daniel might tell me its Apple. :p
Having originally gone with Apple I would say me and the other half (well the other half mainly as itunes is linked to his bank account) have invested in apps which would make the decision to swap from Apple a difficult one. I would assume if you went with Android or Windows the transfering of apps between smartphones may be much less of an issue as long as you stayed with the same platform. I really have no idea about how it would work. I'm guessing not many people have any practical experience of swapping smartphone platforms. Most people I know have either stuck to the same platform or are still on their first smartphone.
Yep you can't transfer apps between OSes on phones. They are incompatible in the same way as applications on desktop OSes are. So yes, if you change your OS you'll have to buy your apps again. Which is to the advantage of the smartphone OS producers so you won't leave!
I had this issue with going from Symbian to iPhone, but I didn't have many apps for my N97. The one exception to the above was the Viewranger mapping application, I had to pay again for the app itself but they allowed me to transfer the maps I'd originally purchased for my Nokia, which is good as they were like £150 worth and them coming out with that was the final push towards me getting an iPhone.
And I must have bought TomTom in one form or another about 6 times :mark;
Tbh I see this as a reason to never invest in anything particularly expensive for my phone :mark:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Apps, no scrap that, good apps are what make smartphones so good.
Tbh I doubt there is much in terms of Apple IP most Apple products other than the ARM based A4 and A5 processors. Flash memory, DRAM and so on can come from anywhere tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
It is a very complex market. You not only have to please users but also carriers as you say. Apple can do what they want in terms of updates, update support for Android devices is patchy at best and Microsoft have slightly alienated carriers by forcing them to push updates out. Carriers can slow things down by "testing" the updates but in the end they have to push them out and some carriers like to stop updates coming out so the phone that the customer has in his/her hand doesn't have as many features as those the carrier will try and hawk to them. I remember my n95 being several updates behind what Nokia had released, I debranded the phone and it ran much better!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
Also traditionally carriers wanted to install their own bloatware to advertise their own services. And they didn't want to have to redo that for different firmware so they didn't bother. Apple was one of the first to say that this wouldn't happen with their phones, and it was widely predicted at the time they would fail for this reason!
Well Apple took the risk and it's paid off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
WP7 is quite good in this regard. There isn't any carrier related bloatware on there, though carriers are allowed to put an App on the phone but you can delete it or just not use it.
The clock on my iPhone change to British Summer Time all by itself last night. My alarm clock also went off at 6.45 for the Grand Prix this morning which also happened to be the time I'd set it to go off. All is well on the alarm clock front for me. :p
Karen is thinking of getting an iPhone. How does the two iPhones from one iTunes account work then?
Don't think it does
It does cos Ibby and GridGirl do it.
You'd probably have to ask Ibby. :p I suppose it works because the phones have two different names. My iphone is backed up under and synced under its name and Ibby's does the same under whatever his is called. The best thing about using one account itunes account is obviously the sharing of apps and in theory the spreading of the cost of apps. I suppose TomTom was quite an expensive app but when we've both got use of it and could be using it in different places it does seem less of an expensive purchase. It is still far more cheaper than buying two seperate TomTom's. I also have the added bonus of itunes being linked to Ibby's bank account so he buys all the apps and I just get them for free. It will be a sad day when he change itunes to the joint bank account and I hope it never comes. :D
Mark, I would think that if Karen were to get an iphone she would just need to give it a name when linking it to itunes, select all the music, video's, apps and whatever from what is already stored and then she would be good to go from the start. :)
that's how it (finally and somewhat surprisingly :p ) worked in the donkey household, albeit with 2 ipods instead of iphones.Quote:
Originally Posted by GridGirl
I think I needed to logout from the account it (itunes) was in first though for it to synchronise from the PC to the second device :)
Some on the news this morning whinging about the iPhone clock bug again. Like, why is this still happening, shouldn't it have been fixed?! Yes, it was, but you haven't updated your software!
I, like GridGirl, used my phone to wake me up for the GP and it went off fine at ten to seven BST.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Your money is his money and his money is your money, if it isn't the case already, it will be soon ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by GridGirl
Cheers! I might give that a try.Quote:
Mark, I would think that if Karen were to get an iphone she would just need to give it a name when linking it to itunes, select all the music, video's, apps and whatever from what is already stored and then she would be good to go from the start. :)
It's a bit of a choice however as Karen already has an iTunes account for her iPod so it would mean leaving behind the purchases for that - although it's not like her iPod is going to stop working.
Never should have happened in the first place!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
I take it back then! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Very true, but the fact remains that the problem has been fixed by a software update. Was it Apple's fault it happened in the first place, yes! Is it their fault it's still happening because people have failed to update their phones, no!Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Besides the point when you get people moaning about a problem that has been rectified and could be solved if they updated. It'd be like someone not sending a Toyota back in that recall and then being shocked when the throttle stuck open.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Has anyone used the iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4? Karen is thinking of getting the 3GS 8GB instead as it's £140 cheaper upfront cost than the iPhone 4.
I guess it's missing the retina display, forward facing camera, good GPS, and has a slower processor, but what else?
The 3GS is alot better and more significantly alot faster than the 3G. I dont have any experience of the 4G but Ingham says its much bette than his old 3GS.
I didn't think I would use anything like 8GB when I got mine over 2 years ago and thought paying £99 for the smaller one was more than enough. I would say that 8GB is too small in memory size if your going to put TomTom on it but if your not it would most probably be OK. Due to the a combination of the size of TomTom and the app updating itself by downloading the whole app including the update rather than just the update means that my phone usually has to be rebuilt when an update comes out. I suppose its easy enough to do but its still hastle that you wouldn't get if you had the 16GB one. :)
Will she be tied to a contract for any period of time? I saw an ad for a smaller carrier in the U.S. and they're offering the 3GS for $0... but they tie purchasers to a 3 year contract (where the typical contract here is 2 years). If she won't be tied to a contract, she could get the 3GS now and then upgrade whenever she wants. If she will be tied to a contract (and she doesn't need a new phone right now), she might wait until late summer/early fall when the iPhone 5 comes out and get an iPhone 4 on discount. Just an idea...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
this is a really useful app for android: https://market.android.com/details?i...=order_history
its called basically turns your phone into a remote control for Winamp. You will also need the server program which you can get at the developers website.
There both a free version and a pay version. I've only tried the free version and its very good. :)
OK! here's what I'd like to put to the forum. The new iPad2 costs just under AUD$800 here, same as the Samsung (both at $781 I think) for the basic tablet. Now I've just checked the laptops at Amazon, and my search into the Acer lines show the unit has the same specs as this: http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/model/LX.TZF03.021
For $750 from Costco, this laptop has a 15.6" screen, i5 cpu, 4GB memory, 500GB hard drive, and an extreme 8 hour battery.
So! can anyone please explain to me the advantage of buying an Apple iPad2 for just under $800? over this Acer Aspire laptop that comes with Windows 7 home premium?
There are probably not that many advantages or disadvantages. It's more likely just a matter of personal preference.
We go to the Lake District alot and take our laptops. The family also have a communal Orange Dongle thing that is left in the Lake District for anyone to use while they are there. Alternatively, if we ditched the laptop and Orange Dongle we would get an iPad with 3G capabilities which would essentially let us do the same thing. If at home a laptop or an iPad would be connected to our WiFi network. I actually really like the iPad but can't really justify the purchase of one. If someone was to give me one it would quickly become a favoured toy but until then I will just stick to the laptop and the pc in our study.
I think the iPad (or any tablet) is fine if all you are doing is some general browsing, reading of the forums (the Tapatalk application works on iPad now, just search for Motorsport Forums when you download the app! :p ). Or if you are facebooking or playing a few games etc, then a tablet is probably what you want. However if you are doing real work or want to type out documents etc then you'll at least need a laptop.
The iPad is indeed 'neat' but it's way overpriced for what it is. But it's really just a supersized iPhone, and it's not just iPhones which are expensive, most phones are, except you don't notice as it's bundled up with your airtime plan.
Well, the ASK android tablet that I bought in HK for $250 (including a 16 gig card) allpwed me to do what you said above, and my tablet even had a flash player. And I didn't need to download any apps to visit this forum, or the skiing forums, or read the daily news from Oz when I was at Niseko.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
BUT I simply cannot see the advantage or even logic paying more for the Apple iPad2 than a laptop with an i5 CPU, with an 8 hour extended battery life. I mean the Acer laptop I mentioned above would allow for some very serious gaming, and it has a decent keyboard, and it costs less. With skype, I can make some very convenient long distance calls with the laptop. I know I may be old fashioned, but on my next overseas holiday, I will simply go to Costco and see what their latest deal is on a laptop, or a netbook.
Well you don't need to download apps to view this forum either. It works just fine using a web browser, either looking at the desktop site or the mobile skin. It's just that the app makes it more convenient.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valve Bounce