Works Porsche team in the BRC next year? :D
I know what this forum is like so I must qualify that statement as a joke right now!
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Works Porsche team in the BRC next year? :D
I know what this forum is like so I must qualify that statement as a joke right now!
There have been negotiations about putting Wales Rally GB on the R-GT cup 2016 calendar. I think that Tuthill meant that ;)
Hommell Berlinette RS GT
a car I have never heard about. Any French that could teach us?
this has the engine from peugeot 306 gti 6speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
I was a big fan of Echappement magazine in the 80's and 90's...the Hommel Berlinette was a passionate project from Michel Hommel, former racing driver and owner of Hommel press group (with several titles dedicated to motorsport). In the 90's he decided to reinvent the old Alpine A110 ("berlinette") whit the help of Echappement readers, that were able to participate in the new car technical definition! It ended to be a road legal little rwd GT, with tubular chassis, 405Mi16 mechanics (the Pug front axle was used at the rear!) and a racing 6 gearbox. Produced in little numbers at an affordable price, it was homologated into Gr.N/GT when GT cars became allowed in french rallys. Several amateurs crews entered them in local events, without major results. I suppose production ceased in the 2000's, but some of them are still in use.
A full report can be read in this (french) blog:
http://blogautomobile.fr/rendez-voit...#axzz3I7uOhj2r.
In the past, there has been a cup for these Hommell ;)
Michel Hommel press group owns Echappement, but too Auto Hebdo, the two most important motorsport newspaper in France.
Nice 3 minute video from Deleceur and his Porsche at Valais Rallye: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-J8dJwbk9o
Václav Pech with his new car (ex-Ruben Zeltner), photo from team boss Jiří Jírovec (the guy at the left)
https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...91&oe=56F428A6
He shall drive R-GT cup and some events of Czech championship (maybe complete).
Has the R-GT calendar been confirmed next year? Same rounds? Would love to see them add Circuit of Ireland. But probably no one wants to stretch it to 6 rounds.
While you can never have enough Porsches, are there any other GT cars suitable for this class? I won't even suggest the Bentley, as that is like a tank....
There was the Aston Martin in Finland. Also more years ago Prodrive tried to make some Aston Martin GT car, without success... Lotus managed to make a car according to the regulations, and I think it wouldn't be a bad car. In Belgium we've had a 350Z and 370Z and also Porsche Cayman, they should qualify to make a FIA-homologated GT car as well. The Nissan 370Z was as spectacular as the GT3 (video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mfpmmeiIMo ). The problem with almost any possible GT-car apart from Porsche (and Lotus) is that there's not enough weight pushing on the rear wheels, causing lack of traction (very visible in the video of the 370Z), making it too unefficient to rally...Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
There was some project idea with Ford Mustang from some Italian tuner I think, but know how it goes, probably it'd be something like the Bentley?!?
There was some project for a Mustang from Floral Racing, well-known Belgian team that's running Fiesta R2 and R5 cars. Everything is quiet around the project now, I think someone must be really interested before they will make big investments on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Alfa Romeo 4C? This new Alpine, when it comes out?
At least in the regulations for the 2016 Monte Carlo Rally it says, that the rally counts for the FIA RGT Cup for Drivers and FIA RGT Cup for Co-drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
http://acm.mc/wp-content/uploads/201...GULATIONS-.pdf
I've got so excited I've even put it in the wrong thread...
This one must have a RGT version!!!
http://planetcarsz.com/assets/upload...02016%2001.jpg
New Cayman GT4 Clubsport, Porsche Motorsport
http://www.porsche.com/international...bbe947&lang=en
Does R-GT regulation allows paddle shift..?
Yep! And even homologate a different gearbox, if necessary.
I'm still hypersalivating for this beauty...the 3.8 flat six central mounted in a light compact chassis...what else?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5iYlm56BMY
Please Santa, don't let FIA ruin it and put ASAP a team of Weissach engineers, under the supervision of Mr. Rohrl, working on a full spec (tarmac and gravel) RGT version!!!
Still with Cayman fever! Maybe because it doesn't look bulky or fragile like others rally GT's, it really seems suitable for rallying and it'll be a pity if Porsche clients don't get to use it at special stages (even the fever doesn't make believe that Porsche could enter FIA RGT Cup on their own! But they should!).
Talk with project manager
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9Jv61IxA-g
Track testing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsKNGQCu_to
The road version won the Evo Car of the Year....would love to see it on the stages.
The Master testing GT4 road version at Algarve:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyykDmuCxZo
(very poor translation; Rohrl's actually saying how he finds the Cayman perfect for rallying and that he'll push Porsche staff to enter RGT Cup next season...;))
Petrolhead spirit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GmLnDmBW10
Finally(?): the new Alpine. RWD, 1.8T, 300HP, 1100KG. If Renault really wants to honor the iconic A110, they must put this one into a ss! Vite!
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3-BXLWRAGe...t-images-0.jpg
http://www.carscoops.com/2016/01/lon...-debuting.html
2015 Le Mans presentation of the prototype
http://www.lemans.alpine-cars.com/en/
It looks like the 2016 R-GT Cup will be contested over 4 rounds:
* Circuit of Ireland (7-9 April)
* Ypres Rally (23-25 June)
* Rally France (29 Sep - 2 October)
* Rallye International du Valais (19-22 October)
(from http://www.fia.com/events/r-gt-cup/season-2015/r-gt-cup )
There are no RGT starters in Monte Carlo and now it isn't on the list either.
That's 2015 page.
Yes, but the calendar is clearly for 2016 (look at the dates and also the rally selection - Ireland was not part of the cup last year)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
With FIA You never know. Let's see :)
Delecour said R-GT is too expensive
Well of course it is with the stupid rules that basically dictate that you have to rebuild an already rebuilt porsche race car.
If they had simplified the rules this would maybe not be such a stillborn segment.
finally seems that everybody understands that this stupid category has no place at rallies.
I really like it, on national and local events. In Belgium they bring a great attraction to the stages, especially for people who are not familiar to rallying they are great to watch. Also for a driver who has no big ambitions, these cars can give more fun for less money than R5 cars. But so do historic cars, which are very popular here... But indeed they're not meant for a real competition like ERC/WRC, they don't really belong there. Those GT cars will never be competitive on more than a handful of events.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Tell this to Zeltner, Dobberkau, Vallejo, Fuster, Pech,Dumas.....just look to Spanish tarmac championship...without GT cars it would be very booring.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
IMHO driving Porsche wasn't Pech's own idea and I don't think he is very happy about it either...
Also for our championship it's nothing good. Now Kopecký will have zero competition (yes, it looks like Škoda wants him to win again).
I don't know why you say so. When I saw Condroz and Haspengouw rallies in Belgium, both the Porsche of Marc Duez and the Nissan 350Z of Chris van Woensel were one of the greatest attractions of those events. I think GT cars add some colours to the boring modern rally scene.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Duez and his Porsche, Condroz Rally 2010
http://foto.rallyonline.pl/GALERIA/j...jzagorny27.jpg
van Woensel and his Nissan, Rally Haspengouw 2011
http://foto.rallyonline.pl/GALERIA/j...jzagorny23.jpg
Excuse the cynicism; the FiA get their way. They make a series for GT cars - but put major hurdles in the way of anyone showing interest; a few entries and voila.....Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
You do wonder how much pressure the FiA were under from the manufacturers, who wouldn't like the idea of these cars taking any interest away from their 'family hatchbacks'.
The pressure cannot be big, can it? How many manufacturers do we have in the WRC? 3 or 4?Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
Andy, I think that You're seeking the main problem where it isn't. The main issue is that GT manufacturers are not interested in rallying at all. Even Porsche as a company isn't.
as i ve said plenty of times,for me is not an attraction when a more powerfull with wider tyres car competes against other cars.Also is not an attraction when it is so slow at corners,and just uses its power at straights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
These cars have nothing to do at rallies,they are not for rallies.
All these drivers would be much more usefull for all rally fans if they drove s2000/r5 cars.
I find the lack of compact RWD sportscars disturbing.
They can't speak English.. :p (Please don't take this seriously)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ucci