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Yes. I find not to hate McLaren, the team, who claims fair play, but who has chief manager, who steals ideas from Ferrari and many drivers - Prost, Coulthard, Montoya and now Alonso, who say that were mistreated in the team.
But, if it is McLaren, it is OK...
You mean Alain Prost.. the one who battled with his team-mate (Senna) for the championship... I understand what you mean. It wasn't as spectacular as seeing MS fighting really hard against RB. :laugh: ... If you had thought it better you would have invented something better...Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
So far I've heard they bought ideas from Ferrari :laugh:
You and your friend ICHY don't have time to wait for any verdict... You've made up you mind years ago. :laugh:
If they are not the devil they are very good friends with him (aka Max Mosley)Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Could someone of his experience honestly be that stupid? Revenge seems like a poor motive to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
I think his/her nick is ICKE! :!:Quote:
Originally Posted by eu
my mistakeQuote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Perhaps any technical information that has been passed hasn't been for another team to use on it's own cars as much as it is to formulate a protest to the FIA about something Ferrari is doing with it's cars.
So what is McLaren's "crime" supposed to be then, merely to have received "information" and not gone public about it ?
Naughty boys... ban them I say :dozey:
From an unbiassed point of view (my favourite team is my own!)
Talk of McLaren's upturn in form since April vs Ferrari's fall, and you all forget the early races and the discussion of the "moving floors" which Ferrari has to fix, and McLaren did not suffer with.
Stepney is being stitched up for being p'd off at not being allowed to do a Brawn or Byrne (sabbatical), and what credit for the man who was part of the team that put the Scuderia back on top after many years as a midfield team.
From my own experience of working in the sport of F1, you learn very quickly that there are always plenty of people ready to stab you in the back, and blame you for everything and anything, if it can get "them" out of trouble (until they eventually get found out!).
And what information, of use, could pass from Ferrari to McLaren? As has been said, there is little or no common design areas on any of the cars, except (ahem) the RB and the STR, or the SA07 and the RA07.... And setup information is pointless as different chassis will react totally different to different setups.
In my own racing, there are people who run stiffer spring/lower tyre pressure setups and get a good feel, to those who run soft springs/higher tyre pressures. More or less crossweight/wedge, etc.. The feel for the car is in the driver's confidence.
This whole media driven "trial" is a bit like a medieval witch-hunt with "Trial by ordeal" where they tie rocks to you, throw you in the river. If you drown, then you are innocent, and absolved of any wrongdoing. If you float, you must be a witch and are burned at the stake!
The losers, will be F1 in general as the fans get p'd off with the politics again.
While F1 in the UK is riding high on Lewis-mania, this sort of "scandal" could turn them back off the sport again and back to "Big Brother on Grass" (premier league football).
That seems quite fishy to me. So Mclaren have completed this complete investigation in just 1 day ??? Me thinks they are in deep trouble....Especially if Mike starts to spill the beans in a civil court.....Quote:
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"Following our statement of 3rd July 2007, McLaren has completed a thorough investigation and can confirm that no Ferrari intellectual property has been passed to any other members of the team or incorporated into its cars," said the team in a statement.
"McLaren has in the meanwhile openly disclosed these matters to the FIA and Ferrari and sought to satisfy any concerns that have arisen from this matter. In order to address some of the speculation McLaren has invited the FIA to conduct a full review of its cars to satisfy itself that the team has not benefited from any intellectual property of another competitor."
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/60479