Homophobia

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

Not everyone. Far from it, in fact.

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True.

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

A lot of people don't like certain religious denominations because of the way they try to 'win them over' with their door to door preaching. There would be a lot more tolerance if religion learned to accept people do not wish to forced or coerced into a religious belief.

In the same way that some gay men, as has been alluded to earlier in this thread, when on 'gay rights' domonstrations for example feel the need to force this 'gayness' upon everyone. Now, if you don't like the OTT campness of Julien Clarey for example, you turn him off - right?

If you get urinated on, or even worse some oik decides to sew his seed all over you - what choice do you have?

It merely breeds contempt and resentment. Maybe that is the object?

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Utterly exaggerated examples. In fact, this sums up perfectly the erroneous views to which I, and others, have been referring. That this is the first thing that comes to mind to you in discussing the subject speaks volumes. Yes, if you don't like Julian Clary, you can turn him off. Similarly, if you don't want to experience a gay rights march, don't go near one. You seem to be suggesting that they're everywhere, that it's all but impossible to avoid them.

I'd imagine your pre-existing views on aspects of homosexuality — that we shouldn't be allowed to marry, that we shouldn't be allowed to adopt, and so forth — influence your thinking somewhat.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

You seem to be suggesting that they're everywhere, that it's all but impossible to avoid them.

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Of course not, just as there are not Clarksons everywhere for example.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

I'd imagine your pre-existing views on aspects of homosexuality — that we shouldn't be allowed to marry, that we shouldn't be allowed to adopt, and so forth — influence your thinking somewhat.

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I don't agree with it. There is a difference between dissagreement and dissallowing.

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Of course not, just as there are not Clarksons everywhere for example.

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I wasn't suggesting there were. You, however, brought up an example of extreme behaviour — not one I recognise, incidentally — as a serious means of making a point as to why gay people have trouble with acceptance.

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

I don't agree with it.

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With what?

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

Camp people aren't always gay, let's not forget. It's also an ancient theatrical tradition.

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I fully appreciate that in the real world. I've known some very camp gays and camp guys who were straight. It is the television stereotyping that links gay with camp on the whole. Perhaps because it is easier to have a character act camp and therefore be assumed gay, than it is to write a decent script!

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

I wasn't suggesting there were. You, however, brought up an example of extreme behaviour — not one I recognise, incidentally — as a serious means of making a point as to why gay people have trouble with acceptance.



With what?

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The baggage retrieval system at Heathrow.....

Really, I don't agree with same sex marriage or adoption. Whether it is allowed or not is not up to me, and I shall never put myself in a position for it to be my decision.

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Really, I don't agree with same sex marriage or adoption. Whether it is allowed or not is not up to me, and I shall never put myself in a position for it to be my decision.

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Oh, that. Yes, I know. I thought for a moment you meant homosexuality per se, which, even though I may disagree vehemently with you about many things, surprised me. Thanks for the clarification.

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Whether it is allowed or not is not up to me, and I shall never put myself in a position for it to be my decision.

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You're a voter, aren't you? :)

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Originally Posted by EuroTroll

You're a voter, aren't you? :)

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Yes. But I wouldn't vote for a party based on their sexual stance, rather how they will best look after the interests of me and mine.

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Yes. But I wouldn't vote for a party based on their sexual stance, rather how they will best look after the interests of me and mine.

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In that I'd suggest that, despite all the fuss made about gay marriage at the moment, you're hardly unique. It's a big issue within the older rank-and-file of the Conservative party, but not generally.