Lance Armstrong found guilty of doping

I might consider some EPO for all the cycle rides I'm doing this year. I hear it's good stuff :D

Cheating was (is?) endemic within professional cycling. That's not an excuse or a reason but as Ben says, a fact.

Lance was obviously one of the figureheads of this conspiracy and reaped great rewards through using illegal drugs but it's difficult to asertain any credibility from the results of competition for the last 30 or so years.

Even longer than 30 years.

Yes Mark epo is still one of the best stuff to take and is probably still in use to get there hematocrit values just under 50 higher I wouldn't do because then it's getting life threatening.. Although with the Bio passport it's not so easy anyway to do it.

Btw is Lance not a bit the Walter White in the real world..? There are some common things between them..

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Originally Posted by ioan

Do you cheat if you dope in a sport where everyone else does it? It really depends on the POV.
Not that I agree with doping, just putting a bit of perspective into this whole mess.

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Yes.

It's cheating if you prevent perfectly clean riders from having a cat in hell's change unless they too put themselves at risk, of course it is.

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

Cheating was (is?) endemic within professional cycling. That's not an excuse or a reason but as Ben says, a fact.

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My actual comment was that it's a fact that doping is illegal. Of course, what you say is right as well.

Plus I am sick of hearing about this Piece of Sh!t. Give him a couple of years with Bubba and move on.

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Originally Posted by Rudy Tamasz

Were your views on cheating influenced by the history of a certain seven time champ?

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I want some of the stuff you are smoking.

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Originally Posted by Dave B

Yes.

It's cheating if you prevent perfectly clean riders from having a cat in hell's change unless they too put themselves at risk, of course it is.

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Were there any perfectly clean riders though?

PS: I'm playing devils advocate, though some seem to be to serious around here. :\

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

Yes, you do if it's illegal. That's not a matter of point of view, but of fact.

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Is so clear cut though?
Is cheating really only about legal vs illegal, or is it about a fair and level playing field?

Just heard a long radio discussion about doping and it wasn't as black and white as some people would like to think it is.

As I said before, and those who read before posting did see it, I am not saying he didn't do anything illegal, I am just putting things into perspective, the perspective of human beings with flaws and with a strong drive for results and under enormous pressure to succeed.

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Originally Posted by henners88

You used a similar logic when you fiercely defended Nelson Piquet Jr after Crashgate all those years ago. I admire your consistency in supporting those who cheat but remind me never to go out for a cycle with you :p

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I will always give it my best to understand circumstances before consider to criticize someone who's just been knocked down.