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Originally Posted by N.O.T
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The only way to be on top of the three for... ever-more-more-more...Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Seems that the Citroen management have take the control over Quesnel.
I'm sure it would be different if it were the two fords ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Just finished watching Rally Deutschland. I'm still confused, day 2, team tells Ogier to not push. Of course he ignores them and pushes Loeb. My guess is he is trying to prove to the world how he is just as good as Loeb, he'll probably slow on the last stage of the last day so that he can say he has fulfilled his team orders. What the h__l is that? You are supposed to SLOW down not just stay behind the guy!
What happens, Loeb gets a puncture and loses over a minute. Other than pissing off a lot of viewers why doesn't Quesnel slow down Ogier to give that time back to Loeb? Sounds stupid as I write this but what kind of contract do you sign if you're Loeb, the one that says you are no longer number one at Citroen?
I'm a Ford guy anyway but it still bugs me.
I can see why he's not going to VW, a totally new unproven program in the WRC. Yes I know how great they run the Dakar. I wish he went to Ford, like many others have said, it would really piss off Quesnel and maybe let us see if it's been the car or the driver all these years.
Ogier followed the team orders on day 2...Loeb admitted he was cruising and that he did not push so it was normal for ogier to gain some time if he went a little faster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back-N-Black
The puncture was just bad luck given the pace they both had.
Loeb never signed a contract in his career with No1 status on it...in Citroen they have a s rule that both driver start from the same position but when 1 driver takes the lead by a confortable margin he becomes No1...and as individual rallies go then team orders are applied to the leader of the rally to win when there is no fear from Ford. Thats why they employed team orders so early in germany because ford was too far behind and it would be stupid to let them fight for 2 whole days risking everything.
of course people who like soap operas and star trek universe theories see things like Ogier not following team orders, Loeb signing contracts as No1, Ogier going to VW in 2 weeks, Quesnel being sent to prison by Citroen management ects...
You can't ask this much to Ogier. Obviusly nobody like team orders that prevent you to fight for 1st position, but he followed them, indeed both him and Loeb were "almost-cruising", since the others were ages behind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back-N-Black
The puncture of Loeb was bad luck. It would have been stupid and ridicolous if Ogier had to slow down and stop for more than a minute to let Loeb pass. THAT would have really pissed me off.
Now we know why Ogier was furious :
He discovered in Germany that he was the deceived husband of the system Loeb. Now Ogier won't win in the future because the big boss of Citroen said Loeb must win the championship. French people love Loeb so Loeb must win. In the new contract, Loeb would be the exclusive number one
Business is more important than sport :rolleyes:
Everybody loves a good conspiracy theory but I beg to differ.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Looking at the stage times it looks a lot to me like Ogier never slowed until the stage AFTER Loeb got the puncture. I can't tell right now which stage was in what part of the day but check SS11, 12 and 13. All times faster than Mikko one even faster than Loeb.
What you suggest about how the No 1 driver is determined makes sense, I guess you are probably right? Seems like the number 1 driver for as many years as Loeb has been would be able to come up with something better though. He needs a better agent, heh heh.
Now we're gonna see the real Loeb until the end of championship. He'll win with more than a minute in France.
you are wrong... sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back-N-Black