Pirelli

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Originally Posted by AndyRAC

Was never a fan of refueling - probably from when i first watched F1 in the mid 80's and Prost would be clever and conserve his tyres whilst Senna, Piquet, Mansell at al disappeared into the distance.

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I was always more a fan of the kind of racing where the drivers have to be on the limit all the time, instead of conserving tyres and fuel.

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Originally Posted by Garry Walker

I was always more a fan of the kind of racing where the drivers have to be on the limit all the time, instead of conserving tyres and fuel.

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I'd agree to a point. Except take out the word racing and replace it with driving. The multiple sprint races of the refuelling era were good for watching a car at its limits, but produced little racing. Other than against the clock that is.

I'm pleased it's gone.

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Originally Posted by Garry Walker

I was always more a fan of the kind of racing where the drivers have to be on the limit all the time, instead of conserving tyres and fuel.

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Conservation is part of racing.

I still think the Pirelli tires need to be a improved, but so far, the season has been fun. This is what the FIA wanted and I believe that Pirelli are close to actually acquiring what another member mentioned as the "Holy Grail". Soft tires that have less endurance than hard tires, but are almost a second faster per lap.

Not too shabby...

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Originally Posted by gloomyDAY

I still think the Pirelli tires need to be a improved, but so far, the season has been fun. This is what the FIA wanted and I believe that Pirelli are close to actually acquiring what another member mentioned as the "Holy Grail". Soft tires that have less endurance than hard tires, but are almost a second faster per lap.

Not too shabby...

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gloomyDAY, who says their close? If their form in the WRC when they were competing on an even footing with Michelin is anything to go by they'll probably make things worse/

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Originally Posted by Daniel

gloomyDAY, who says their close? If their form in the WRC when they were competing on an even footing with Michelin is anything to go by they'll probably make things worse/

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Well, we're stuck with Pirelli and they're on a much bigger stage than with WRC. Pirelli better get it right, and I think they're getting there race by race. I just don't want another Bridgestone situation where the hard compound tires can last the duration of an entire race (Button - Oz 2010).

Qualifying isn't as important anymore, but strategy is make or break on raceday. This is solely based on the fact that the teams cannot risk using those Pirelli tires during qualifying. That makes Sunday a lot more fun, therefore, getting the FIA's intentions right.

Let's be honest. Bridgestone left because there was nothing to win from being sole supplier however they had a great image with very good tires and so on.
What Pirelli are doing right now with tires that last 5 times less then Bridgestones is in no way good for them from a marketing point of view given that every 2nd sentence on the TV commentary is about the fast degrading tires = crap tires.

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Originally Posted by gloomyDAY

Well, we're stuck with Pirelli and they're on a much bigger stage than with WRC. Pirelli better get it right, and I think they're getting there race by race. I just don't want another Bridgestone situation where the hard compound tires can last the duration of an entire race (Button - Oz 2010).

Qualifying isn't as important anymore, but strategy is make or break on raceday. This is solely based on the fact that the teams cannot risk using those Pirelli tires during qualifying. That makes Sunday a lot more fun, therefore, getting the FIA's intentions right.

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I agree, the tyre situation wasn't good with bridgestone, they were good tyres, but they weren't good for racing.

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Originally Posted by ioan

Let's be honest. Bridgestone left because there was nothing to win from being sole supplier however they had a great image with very good tires and so on.
What Pirelli are doing right now with tires that last 5 times less then Bridgestones is in no way good for them from a marketing point of view given that every 2nd sentence on the TV commentary is about the fast degrading tires = crap tires.

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Even more reason not to slag them off wouldn't you say?

Stepping into the hole left by bridgestone; doing so with half a years lead time; doing so in a manner that could potentially harm their products reputation by providing highly fragile tyres based on the FIA's request.

F1 fans have a great deal to thank Pirelli for.

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Originally Posted by Sonic

Even more reason not to slag them off wouldn't you say?

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Huh?
Should we now support mediocrity? No way!