So who has a moral right to that land, and why?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
So if Israel is an occupier, then who's land is it that they are occuping?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
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So who has a moral right to that land, and why?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
So if Israel is an occupier, then who's land is it that they are occuping?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
There was nothing said about percentages of immigration to population or to land mass by you Eki. You made a flat statement as to numbers.
Please explain why Israel has no moral right to exist as a country.
There nas never been, as far as I know, a Palestine country.
Those who lived there before 1947 before the recent immigration wave and their descendants.Quote:
Originally Posted by chuck34
Egypt's, Syria's and Jordan's:Quote:
Originally Posted by chuck34
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli...ed_territories
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The Israeli-occupied territories are the territories captured by Israel from Egypt, Jordan, and Syria during the Six-Day War of 1967. They consist of the West Bank, East Jerusalem, the Gaza Strip and much of the Golan Heights and, until 1982, the Sinai Peninsula. Israel also occupied part of southern Lebanon between 1982 and 2000. The United Nations Security Council passed Resolution 242 following the war in 1967, which called for "the establishment of a just and lasting peace in the Middle East" to be achieved by "the application of both the following principles: ... Withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict ... Termination of all claims or states of belligerency" and respect for the right of every state in the area to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries.
Like the link and the quotation said, in 1948 65% of Non-Arabs in Israel were foreign born, today they are 35%. In Canada that would mean that in 1948, about 8 million of Non-Indians and Non-Inuits were foreign born (Canada had about 12 million people in 1948) and now about 11 million (Canada has about 33 million people).Quote:
Originally Posted by Easy Drifter
Like the link and the quotation said, in 1948 65% of Non-Arabs in Israel were foreign born, today they are 35%. In Canada that would mean that in 1948, about 8 million of Non-Indians and Non-Inuits were foreign born (Canada had about 12 million people in 1948) and now about 11 million (Canada has about 33 million people).Quote:
Originally Posted by Easy Drifter
Like the link and the quotation said, in 1948 65% of Non-Arabs in Israel were foreign born, today they are 35%. In Canada that would mean that in 1948, about 8 million of Non-Indians and Non-Inuits were foreign born (Canada had about 12 million people in 1948) and now about 11 million (Canada has about 34 million people).Quote:
Originally Posted by Easy Drifter
Like the link and the quotation said, in 1948 65% of Non-Arabs in Israel were foreign born, today they are 35%. In Canada that would mean that in 1948, about 8 million of Non-Indians and Non-Inuits were foreign born (Canada had about 12 million people in 1948) and now about 11 million (Canada has about 34 million people).Quote:
Originally Posted by Easy Drifter
The population of Israel has grown from about 800,000 in 1948 to the current about 7.5 million. That's about ten times growth. At that rate there should be more than 100 million people in Canada instead of 34 million and about 40 million in Finland instead of 5 million. The only place where I can imagine Finland could have found that many immigrants is Russia, so here would be about 35 million Russian born against 5 million Finns. I don't like that scenario.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel
Like the link and the quotation said, in 1948 65% of Non-Arabs in Israel were foreign born, today they are 35%. In Canada that would mean that in 1948, about 8 million of Non-Indians and Non-Inuits were foreign born (Canada had about 12 million people in 1948) and now about 11 million (Canada has about 34 million people).Quote:
Originally Posted by Easy Drifter
The population of Israel has grown from about 800,000 in 1948 to the current about 7.5 million. That's about ten times growth. At that rate there should be more than 100 million people in Canada instead of 34 million and about 40 million in Finland instead of 5 million. The only place where I can imagine Finland could have found that many immigrants is Russia, so here would be about 35 million Russian born against 5 million Finns. I don't like that scenario.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel
So the Jews that lived there before '47 and their decendents are ok?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
Do they want it? Are you sure they have the rights?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
Seems no one really controls the West Bank
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Bank#Legal_status
"the West Bank was not part of a sovereign country before occupation—thus, in legal terms, there is no "reversioner" for the West Bank. This means that sovereignty of the West Bank is currently suspended, and, according to some, Israel, as the only successor state to the Palestine Mandate, has a status that "goes beyond that of military occupier alone."
Following the Oslo Accords, Israel handed over control to the PLO. Then in 2005, it dropped all claims.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip
"Pursuant to the Oslo Accords signed between Israel and the Palestinian Liberation Organisation in 1993"
"As agreement remained elusive, Israel unilaterally disengaged from Gaza in 2005, saying it was no longer the occupying power there"
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by chuck34