[WRC] Monza Rally 2020

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Originally Posted by dimviii

that,Makinen congratulate Sordo,but not Tanak.

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im not surprised to be honest, the departure and their relationship wasnt the best last year

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Originally Posted by bluuford

Those who were angry about stage cancellation yesterday, some reading for you :)

https://www.severe-weather.eu/mcd/ex...lps-europe-mk/

It is exceptional situation and in exceptional circumstances, models does not work well, because they learn from existing cases.

If you go just a few tens of km-s north from rally route you can see already meters of snow. and if you read this article, you can see that maximum expected snow in the mountains region is over 5 meters, then you must understand that in the region hit severely by COVID and now by flooding and snowstorm, you just cannot direct all your best forces and machines to secure sport event. I know it is frustrating for us, but we have to understand also the general picture. Even if you have access by ambulance or firetruck along the stage (organizers put huge efforts to clean the stage overnight), if you access roads are blocked by snow and imagine the stage is blocked by crashed cars on the narrow steep downhill route, you just cannot take too much risks.

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Thanks for this

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Originally Posted by PLuto

If they will pay, everything is possible.

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But in that case the results don't matter

btw Munster rolled at power stage

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Originally Posted by EstWRC

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Originally Posted by dimviii

that,Makinen congratulate Sordo,but not Tanak.

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im not surprised to be honest, the departure and their relationship wasnt the best last year

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or it could be that Makinen congratulated others already outside of TV cameras and therefore Sordo and del Barrio on podium only

....but how did you see that Toyota lost the manufacture championship?
could be different if Makinen had apply orders at his team about Nr 1 ?
feel free to discuss.
i am going for a nap,and looking forward to read your opinion.

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Originally Posted by EstWRC

i dont know why, but with each day the rally coming to closer and closer....

the more i have a feeling that Ogier will snatch the title, i dont wish or want it but i just have this feeling.

we will see in a week if my feeling was right or wrong.

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sadly my feeling was right

although with snatching i was thinking more of a close fight with Ogier JUST beating him with points.

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Originally Posted by dimviii

....but how did you see that Toyota lost the manufacture championship?
could be different if Makinen had apply orders at his team about Nr 1 ?
feel free to discuss.
i am going for a nap,and looking forward to read your opinion.

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For same reasons we talked about in January when they announced the teams.

Rovanpera had to in his first season outscore Loeb/Sordo (+ someone who turned to be Breen) on their best events and with road advantage.
It's not a surprise he did not do that.

At the same time Evans had to outscore one of Tanak/Neuville which he actually managed, much to the surprise of a lot of people.

So Toyota actually did much better than most people including me expected.

What could they have done different?
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a) Rotate 3driver (for example with Latvala in the loop, but he is good on same rallies as Rovanpera atm or other drivers)
b) Hire full time 3rd driver that could outscore the mentioned Hyundai 3rd drivers. Latvala and Meeke did not manage that in 2019. Possible options were Lappi or Mikkelsen. Neither of them seem to be popular at Toyota (maybe also due to Jouhki, and Jouhki backs Rovanpera, so that wouldn't probably work well). It's off course not certain they would do better when Sordo/Loeb/Breen had road position advantages on gravel rallies.

Toyota had P1 and P2 in the drivers championship but didn't still win the manufacturers title. That's quite rare...

quite interesting that the two champions finished the seasons thoughest rally in 1-2.

vert good rally from Sordo IMO, i have always understood that he doesnt like rallies with conditions like this, said it himself too in an interview before the rally but very good speed from him. on friday i thought maybe the back starters had some advantage but proved on saturday that it wasnt so.

really good driving also from Lappi, such a shame that snowy stage was cancelled (dont get me wrong it was right to cancel), he could have had massive time there.

Rovanpera also with a good steady drive, although maybe i expected a more speed from him. Takamoto was also superb, such a shame about that mistake on first stage.

One day on this circuit is okay for me with this rally (but only Sunday), but definitely two days needs to be on proper stages which were awesome btw. that way this rally could be a regular in the calendar for me.