Mobile phones & tablets thread

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Originally Posted by pino

Dear Captain, dunno in your country but where I live at the moment (Danmark) 8 people out of 10 have an iPhone...there must be a reason don't you think?

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One of my colleague's kid is studying in the UK right now and working part time on a 800 pounds a month salary. He recently bought an iPhone 4s on a 35 pound monthly contract from 3 UK. When asked why he bought it, he said because almost all of his classmates have one. Up until a month ago, he didn't know he could record HD videos on his iPhone.

Another friend of mine (she currently has a Nokia Lumia 800 because her kid broke her iPhone 4) wanted to buy a digital camera to take pictures at her kid's baptism ceremony. She thinks of me as some techy guy, and so asked me to suggest some digital cameras. I told her she doesn't really need to buy one as her phone has an 8 megapixel camera. To which she replied, "It does??!?"

Another guy I know, has an iMac, Macbook Air, iPad 2, iPhone 4S and the new iPad. Does he work? No. He's the son of a filthy rich evangelist. Does he know what's inside of his gadgets or that there are better alternatives? No. He doesn't need to, because daddy pays for everything.

The point is that the majority of iPhone lovers that I know either bought the iPhone because it was the coolest thing at the time or pretty much caved into the sheep herd mentality. They don't know, care or bother about what's inside their phone as long as it works and lets them show off and do the basic stuff. They're happy paying the premium.

Unfortunately, I'm not a filthy rich guy, and so I have to carefully ponder upon what I purchase. And IMO Apple are getting away with murder by selling overpriced, under performing products, and what's strange is people are happy paying for it.

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Originally Posted by pino

Also I am not an expert and my English is too poor to get involved in this discussion so I am just going to tell the main reason why I have bought an iPhone : the great amazing and unique quality audio. Music for me it's so important that I always chose the best no matter the price. I have tested all the mobile available and none could match the iPhone.

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$600 is a lot of money for an MP3 player. :p From my discussions with Audiophiles, they considered the good old Galaxy S to have the best sound hardware and quality in a smartphone to date (I believe Galaxy S3 has now beaten that), something to do with the chipset. The sound quality on my S2 is not the greatest, I'll admit that, but I didn't buy it for music anyway.

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Originally Posted by pino

Also the biggest mobile websites in their test have iPhone on top so it was an easy choice for me. I have owned my iPhone 4S for 5 months now, it work perfectly in everything and have suggested it to other people. Many went for it and are now very satisfied about their choice.

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Galaxy S2 was given the phone of the year tag by majority of the phone review websites, with iPhone 4S a close second.

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Originally Posted by pino

So I really don't get all your critics but life is beautiful just because each one has a different opinion...

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My gripe, as with all Apple products, is the ridiculous premium price. The Galaxy S2 is $150 cheaper with better hardware. PCs are on average $400 to $800 cheaper with better hardware. Windows 7 is a much better OS than Mac OS X. So, why do people pay extra?

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Originally Posted by Mark

Dell laptops all have hard drive failures - the Dell repair dude has his own desk here (no joke!), the hard drive has failed on every single laptop we have here.

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I must live in a parallel universe, because in the six combined years of my old Dell and my new Dell Inspiron, not ONCE have I had a hard drive failure. Maybe a format and an OS reinstall once, but never a hard drive failure.

Do you guys get a lot of earthquakes or get drunk after work and dance on your laptops? :p

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Originally Posted by pino

... I am just going to tell the main reason why I have bought an iPhone : the great amazing and unique quality audio. Music for me it's so important that I always chose the best no matter the price. I have tested all the mobile available and none could match the iPhone.

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I've never come across anybody saying the iPhone (or any phone for that matter) has particularly great sound quality, although the iPhone is possibly the best of a mediocre bunch. Mind you most of the people I see are using those ridiculous Beats or Skullcandy headphones, so I guess quality takes a back seat to perceived fashion for them!

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Originally Posted by henners88

Its not just an operating system though is it? You seem to be picking out what you like to respond to. I don't believe the Apple OS looks shocking and I'm pretty sure most Product designers in my field would agree its alot more stylish and easy to use than Windows 7. Most graphic designer like Mac's because they are nice to use and most design packages work freely with Mac.

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That is your opinion henners ol' mate. I find OS X to be rather dumb and Windows 7 to be at least 10 times better. Also, I have loads of friends who are graphic designers, because I work in a similar area, and none of them use OS X. You already know very well that programmers stay as far away from Apple as they possibly can. The only ones who use Macs are the video editors for FCP.

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Originally Posted by henners88

I've just been unlucky and I'm not alone. Theres quite a few threads started across the internet of Dell users with the same laptop as mine who have had to return their laptops because of cheap end hard drives being used.

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Never a case with me in my decade old Dell experience. But who knows, by the time I end typing this, the hard drive in this laptop might go kaput. :p

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Originally Posted by henners88

My Casio only cost £200 less than my Tag so its within the price bracket comparison you are doing between Mac and PC.. So again, why would someone pay 200 quid more for a watch, when they have another that does more? I'm guessing you have never been guilty of liking a brand so much you'd buy it over another?

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I've never liked a brand so much that I would pay $800 more, or hell, even $200 more. ;) Logic always comes first somehow. Maybe when I get rich, then I could throw money around on things I don't really need. :p

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Originally Posted by henners88

You are convinced and you are entitled to that opinion. The problem you seem to have is that you don't appear willing to accept others may not agree with you or are providing answers that are acceptable to you on the criteria you are outlining. To you the more powerful the hardware, the better the phone as long as it is cheaper, so why do so many people not share you opinion on this and buy iPhones, Mac's, iPads etc? They are not all gullible and stupid my friend. :)

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The thing is I don't care if people like Apple products or buy them in bundles and use them or whatever.

Like I said, I can't understand, and probably never would understand the ridiculous pricing from Apple. Let's just make our peace with that. :)

Ok Dave now you have come across someone who says that iPhone is the best music mobile on the marked by miles. And btw I am not using crap earphones, got 2 different one both excellent : Klipsch i4 and Shure SE 315 but even with the original earphones the sound is amazing ;)

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Originally Posted by pino

Ok Dave now you have come across someone who says that iPhone is the best music mobile on the marked by miles. And btw I am not using crap earphones, got 2 different one both excellent : Klipsch i4 and Shure SE 315 but even with the original earphones the sound is amazing ;)

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Being the best mobile for music is a bit like being the best driver in the HRT team! :p

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Originally Posted by CaptainRaiden

I am already convinced Apple products are a load of trash.

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Really?

For me for a computer or phone to be trash it has to be unfit for purpose, either doesn't work or is near unusable. I put it to you that on the current market you'll have to try VERY hard to find any product that is 'trash' as you call it, and if it is it will almost certainly be a fly-by-night company flogging a PC-based product due to the ease of manufacture. Apples would be at the top end of the market and satisfaction rates would suggest they are far from trash.

But this raises another question.

On this thread over the last few pages I've paid attention to, you've claimed that Apple customers are gullible and ignorant while Apple products are trash.

I think most people have made clear on this thread that Apples are not the answer to everything and that people have respect for, use and buy other products where they provide a better solution to their needs. Nowhere have I seen anyone deride users of non-Apple products.

You might wish to take note that the only person using derisive language like that is you. This does your argument very little good and by extension puts you in a poor light.

BTW your argument appears to revolve around the fact that Apple products offer poor value for money in terms of hardware performance and it seems that you cannot grasp the fact that other factors might be of importance to consumers. This is an exceptionally simplistic view of the computer and phone market, indeed of the world in general.

Extending your argument to the car market you would be arguing that Kias are by far the best car in the world and that by any objective measure anyone who buys a premium brand such as BMW or Mercedes must be an idiot. The problem is you're ignoring and dismissing all those voices saying "I want something that makes me feel good" "I need something sporty" "I need something that can take me off-road".

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Originally Posted by Dave B

There's a lot of FUD but you should apply the same sensible precautions as you do with any other OS: don't download from dodgy sites, don't click links you don't trust, and check what permissions you give apps. There are a few bits of malware for Android, and some of them made it onto the official store whereas Apple are a tad more anal about checking these things; but don't automatically assume other OSs are automatically immune, that's the kind of herd thinking which leads to monumentally stupid statements like "Macs don't get infected" or "you don't need antivirus with Firefox".

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Thanks for that, so no specific security weaknesses then as long as you're being sensible.

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Originally Posted by pino

Dear Captain, dunno in your country but where I live at the moment (Danmark) 8 people out of 10 have an iPhone...there must be a reason don't you think? Also I am not an expert and my English is too poor to get involved in this discussion so I am just going to tell the main reason why I have bought an iPhone : the great amazing and unique quality audio. Music for me it's so important that I always chose the best no matter the price. I have tested all the mobile available and none could match the iPhone. Also the biggest mobile websites in their test have iPhone on top so it was an easy choice for me. I have owned my iPhone 4S for 5 months now, it work perfectly in everything and have suggested it to other people. Many went for it and are now very satisfied about their choice. So I really don't get all your critics but life is beautiful just because each one has a different opinion...

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Like Cap R said, its popular because its popular. Many buy them because "everybody else" have one, rather then because the phones specs.
Does that automatically make it good phone? Its the same with most things. Our purchases are influenced by others.

Regarding prices currently these are the cheapest prices that i can find for some phones

HTC One X, 5000kr
S. Galaxy SIII, 5500kr
Iphone 4S, 5200kr

So what with the older 4S makes it worth the same money as the HOX and the S3?

Imo the S3 and HOX are the phones that currently sets the standard for a top of the line smartphone and i dont think
that IP5 will reach up to their standard.

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You already know very well that programmers stay as far away from Apple as they possibly can.

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Can't agree! The development team where I work all use Macs and find them much better for development than PCs.

I suspect they'd find Linux even better but perhaps that's a step too far.









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