The Ferrari thread !

Thanks for the vid henner. You made my day!

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Originally Posted by pallone col bracciale

But also he is not the Kimi Raikkonen of 2008 & 2009.

Thankfully.

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I thought you were a ferrari fan. Obviously you only wish bad to ferrari so you arent a fan.

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Originally Posted by pallone col bracciale

And why does it matter that I am not on the same page as you?

Who are you to decide what page people should be on?

You and your fellow bullyboys do not have the right to think you are better than anyone.

I have asked you before to show some respect. Apparently that was a waste of time.

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Don't let them provoke you , Pallone .

Kimi never had the passion required to be a Ferrari driver .
It was a mis-match , and a mistake from the word go .

And , his ice cream episode showed a driver uninterested in his team , and was a perfect example of why Alonso is infinitely better for the seat .

Remember this is "the Ferrari thread" and these two posters are not Tifosi .
Respect is not why they are here .

Though I cannot call myself Tifoso , I understand .
You are not alone .

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

Don't let them provoke you , Pallone .

Kimi never had the passion required to be a Ferrari driver .
It was a mis-match , and a mistake from the word go .

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I would not call winning the 2007 title for himself and the Scuderia a mistake :eek:

Kimi does not have the sort of personality that Ferrari love and want their drivers to have, thats true, but it remains that he got the job done and that after all was what he was hired to do in the first place.

I have nothing against Kimi but overall, his 3 years at Ferrari are less then impressive and McLaren is doing much better since he left too. I was delighted when he won the title in 2007 but that was only because McLaren were stupid enough to fight against their better driver... and even in Brasil when it was up to him Massa had to slow down to let him win.

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Originally Posted by pallone col bracciale

I have asked you before to show some respect.

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Respect is earned, not given on demand.

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Originally Posted by eu

Yes, I did watch it... it was my first actually and I used to be Hill's fan back then so I don't really agree with your evaluation of him... however you say that Schumi won 3 races that year against 2 mediocre drivers and that is ... huh, amazing?

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Schumi did better than Alonso with a much worse car, that was my point, which surely an intelligent bloke like you understood.

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

Don't let them provoke you , Pallone .

Kimi never had the passion required to be a Ferrari driver .
It was a mis-match , and a mistake from the word go .

And , his ice cream episode showed a driver uninterested in his team , and was a perfect example of why Alonso is infinitely better for the seat .

Remember this is "the Ferrari thread" and these two posters are not Tifosi .
Respect is not why they are here .

Though I cannot call myself Tifoso , I understand .
You are not alone .

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How do you know whether he had passion or not? You judged him based on what you consider to be "passion", what is considered passion in your culture.
Kimi's problem at Ferrari was cultural, that's pretty evident.

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Originally Posted by DexDexter

Schumi did better than Alonso with a much worse car, that was my point, which surely an intelligent bloke like you understood.

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Well, you overestimate me. The circumstances are very diferrent so a comparison based purely on results is too simplistic and it's done only because it suits one's bias IMO.

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Originally Posted by pallone col bracciale

Your memory is incorrect. The Ferrari was the best car at Spa last year. It was not an amazing win.

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Actually, I would stick my neck out and suggest that, on that day, in those conditions, the Force India was the best car. Kimi Won the race by clever timing/use of the KERS.

He then, for lap after lap, despite the Force India doing its best impression of 'white van man' on the M25 (right up his a**!), kept Fisi behind him.

Kimi was thought very highly of at McLaren, and I think they certainly got the best out of him - sadly, the McLarens during Kimi's time there were not a match for his talent in terms of reliability.

His wins and recovery drives from the back due to qually engine failures were testament to his quality.