I will probably be banned for this but... Footie Thread

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Originally Posted by Garry Walker

Was he in danger of injuring his opponent? He very clearly was.

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So is the goalkeeper every time they reach to punch the ball in a crowded box. But do you seriously think Nani used 'excessive force' which is what warrants a red card according to the rules of the game?

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Originally Posted by Garry Walker

Actually, to add some thoughts on football being a contact sport - one of the reasons why I want video replays in football is so that anyone caught faking or diving should at once be given a red-card and an automatic 3 game ban. This is just absurd seeing grown men act as if they are close to dying and then run around like nothing was wrong 10 seconds later.

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I absolutely agree. Because the refs are prone to human errors, as with the Nani incident, players are motivated to dive if they know they can trick the ref into giving a red card (not suggesting for a minute that Arbaloa dived). I know it's disgusting but can you blame the players for diving when there is currently no deterrent to stop them?

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Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow

So is the goalkeeper every time they reach to punch the ball in a crowded box. But do you seriously think Nani used 'excessive force' which is what warrants a red card according to the rules of the game?

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Did you see how high his leg was and with what force it came? That was very dangerous, a clear red.

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I absolutely agree. Because the refs are prone to human errors, as with the Nani incident

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too funny.

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I know it's disgusting but can you blame the players for diving when there is currently no deterrent to stop them?

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You can get cards for diving, the problem is that it is difficult for refs to police it, they have to have a very good view of it. Video replays would fix that at once.

In that incident yesterday the Ref was following guidance given by the Ref association. That regardless of intent a reckless high foot is a Red Card.

Now I am not sure that I 100% agree that should be the case. However the Ref did his job, so there is no reason to moan at him.

As for diving I agree with you that divers should be dealt with after the game via video technology. I also think Nani has himself to blame in many ways. He stayed on the ground faining injury for about 3 minutes even though Arbeloa was hurt more. That time on the ground would have made the Referee think about the decision and assume he was acting to avoid the card.

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Originally Posted by Big Ben

It's just unbelievable that at this level a match can be decided in this manner by such a stupid referee.... At this point we are supposed to have the top 16 teams fighting for the trophy... So is this imbecile a top 8 referee of the freakin' continent?

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As has been linked, FIFA's interpretation document sets out how Law 12 is to be interpreted.

Studs up, into the chest of an opponent. Careless? Certainly. Reckless? Maybe. Using excessive force? Well, going in with the studs of your boots aimed directly at the chest of an opponent doesn't help your cause.
I've seen players been given red cards for less than this in the past.

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Originally Posted by steveaki13

As for diving I agree with you that divers should be dealt with after the game via video technology. I also think Nani has himself to blame in many ways. He stayed on the ground faining injury for about 3 minutes even though Arbeloa was hurt more. That time on the ground would have made the Referee think about the decision and assume he was acting to avoid the card.

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Roy Keane agrees with you:

Heated studio discussion: ITV pundit Roy Keane says Nani deserved his red card against Real Madrid | UEFA Champions League - ITV Sport
"It doesn't matter if he knows there's somebody there or not, it's irrelevant. I don't think the referee actually made the decision because he waited a couple of minutes while the player was getting treatment.
I think it might have been the assistant that made the decision, and I actually think he's made the right call.
We always say referees are very quick to make decisions - he waited a couple of minutes."
- Roy Keane, on ITV.

I personally think that the referee responded correctly. The only people who are kicking up a stink are Man United fans which is understandable because no-one likes to be on the end of a decision like this... even if the referee is right.

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Originally Posted by Rollo

As has been linked, FIFA's interpretation document sets out how Law 12 is to be interpreted.

Studs up, into the chest of an opponent. Careless? Certainly. Reckless? Maybe. Using excessive force? Well, going in with the studs of your boots aimed directly at the chest of an opponent doesn't help your cause.
I've seen players been given red cards for less than this in the past.



Roy Keane agrees with you:

Heated studio discussion: ITV pundit Roy Keane says Nani deserved his red card against Real Madrid | UEFA Champions League - ITV Sport
"It doesn't matter if he knows there's somebody there or not, it's irrelevant. I don't think the referee actually made the decision because he waited a couple of minutes while the player was getting treatment.
I think it might have been the assistant that made the decision, and I actually think he's made the right call.
We always say referees are very quick to make decisions - he waited a couple of minutes."
- Roy Keane, on ITV.

I personally think that the referee responded correctly. The only people who are kicking up a stink are Man United fans which is understandable because no-one likes to be on the end of a decision like this... even if the referee is right.

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I am not a Man U fan per say, but I am english and thus support any english club in the champions league. I heard some Man U fans on the radio moaning.

I dont have any bitterness against anyone, unlike I find most football fans so hopefully have a common sens view to these issues.

While I am not 100% sure it should have been a red card, I understand why it was and think the Ref was doing his job.

Stop pushing Garry guys. He'll soon claim Nani should have been shot on the spot and the bill for the bullet sent to the family

It's was obviously a red card... that's why no one expected it. :rolleyes: .

Roy Keane's opinion is gold to me. I know it for a fact he's not a bitter ex-employee of Man Utd.

Juve 5 Celtic 0 :D

Tonight is the big night: Steaua vs. Chelsea

Or Mission Impossible starring Chiriches, Latovlevici and Rusescu. :laugh:

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Originally Posted by gadjo_dilo

Or Mission Impossible starring Chiriches, Latovlevici and Rusescu. :laugh:

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Who, who and who? :p

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Originally Posted by gadjo_dilo

Tonight is the big night: Steaua vs. Chelsea

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Who vs. Chelsea? :p