Can it be Toyota has lower final gear ratio? They have higher revs out of the hairpins.
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Can it be Toyota has lower final gear ratio? They have higher revs out of the hairpins.
We need Ogier puncture to make things interesting :D
Poor Loubet, this is as painful to watch.
Toyota's engine is pulling from lower revs and as Tom Fowler mentioned the update was donw to improve driveability which means the engine pulls on every circumstances.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Toyota seems a step ahead. I think they had this update for a while but didn't need it last year so they had time to refine it. It's telling when the Hyundai drivers say everything is fine except for the time.
Deja vu - VW dominance time - the rest could bring only water at the stage ends. If Ogier would kept driving, he would gotten several WDC more and beat Loeb.... boring
While I agree that Toyota is on another level at the moment it’s to soon to pack the things already and give up. Just a first rally and if you would take Ogier away from the lead the gaps would be close between top4
We all saw how things changed during last seasons second half
I agree, its really too soon to decide the winnersQuote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Let's wait till the first gravel rally. But if things stay as they are it seems nobody will stop toyota. But the drivers championship might be interesting, if evans can take the fight to rovanpera.
Yes, in tarmac trim the Toyota looks really good, the balance looks the most neutral. The Ford is very twitchy, then understeer mid corner and the Hyundai the opposite, the rear starts to become loose.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
It will be interesting to see if Tanak/MSport can develop the car to improve the balance and reduce the understeer. For sure MSport can’t hide behind the drivers now, if Tanak isn’t quick enough, it’s because of the car.
Good to see Chris Ingram interviewed. He has battled so hard to get funding just to be here.
If anyone would like to contribute to the crowdfunding please go to:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/chris-ingram-wrc/
And win on SS7 as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Another stagewin for Oliver, great day for him!
I just looked through the times and it seems ogier was faster without his hybrid this morning than he is now with it.
5.2 quicker than Gryazin, although i think Gryazin is using a couple of old tyres. Shame about last nights puncture, could have been a good fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
* No need to push that much, he has quite ok lead - we can call it smart drivingQuote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
* Now carrying 2 spares compared 1 spare in the morning loop
Difficult to judge Tanak in the Puma yet - very early days, a specialist rally and little testing (and his PET was mostly on dirty, icy roads).
He lost around 1 min 50 secs last night. Should be around 5 secs ahead of Gryazin by now, if if not were... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Yeah, compared to Toyota he seems quite far away. Compared to Hyundai things seems okeish, as he is driving new car but Neuville known car. Now there is question - is Toyota improved a lot or Hyundai underperforms.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
The morning loop today was okay and promising but afternoon the pace droppedQuote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
I guess it has also to do with the fact there wasn’t service and he couldn’t do changes to the car
I’ll judge more tomorrow now that he has 1.5 days data
Nice job from Taka.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
I wonder if he's starting to run out of new tyres. Might hurt him by Saturday afternoon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
He's not going to win, so probably throwing everything at it for stages wins to try to impress
Is anybody surprised that Toyota is dominating? Hyundai can improve as much as you want, but Toyota doesn't stand there waiting... it's hard to beat the fastest & most reliable car of the lot.
Could it be that he used snows because it's easier to turn the wheel without powersteering with the snow tyres.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
I think he said the opposite. Learning to manage tyres…Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
Solberg just beats Cais' time and jumps to 7th in RC2. Good job today.
I remember last season when Tänak was complaining about the Hyundai and how uncomfortable he feels in this car. Lappi made several comments that he thinks that Tänak is ''fooling'' everybody. Maybe the comments from Lappi were made in a friendly way and just to ''trash talk'' with Tänak. Before Monte Lappi said that there is very small difference between Toyota and Hyundai, I remember telling to myself - lets wait until Lappi starts to race against the time and the story will change. Today unfortunately Lappi is more close to Serderidis pace then Ogier pace. Maybe I am too harsh against Lappi but I think it will be really difficult season for Lappi.
I have to say while I'm glad to see the top crews all still running, I wouldn't mind seeing more snow/ice on the stages, perhaps next year they can travel further into Valance & the Ardèche region, could be a nice change of pace.
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Originally Posted by pajusalum
i am also dissapointed by Lappi´s pace, but just dont forget that Monte is absolutly not Lappi´s favorit Rallye! I am sure he will do much better in Sweden!
....AND he is 2minutes behind Ogier....BUT 11 in Front of Serderidis... ;)
And the last time he was here was 2020 where he finished 4th with the Fiesta, the year before he didn't get to finish with the C3, and 2018 was his first year here and he finished 7th.Quote:
Originally Posted by WRC1
you are right,but we have to say that when he asked ''how is the Hyundai vs yaris'' he couldnt say that is not so good as yaris.Quote:
Originally Posted by pajusalum
Having a dig at your new employer is never a good idea so...i can understand it.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Gryazin is taking it easy.First pass 1,49 sec/km from stage winner,now 1,97 sec/kmQuote:
Originally Posted by RS
You all remember that Lappi went to Hyundai on his own free will instead of staying at Toyota right?
Half a season on his best rallies with regular podium pace vs full season.......starting as slowest WRC of them all.
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It's not like that's the first time he has done that either (Toyota 2018 -> Citroen 2019).
Neither is he the only driver who had big downwards change in pace when going to Hyundai (Tanak, Loeb and Mikkelsen previously).
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My general conclusion is that just about all drivers are way too overconfident. Thinking it is so much in their hands and not that much about the car. While last 10 years or so it seems the opposite is the case.
But I guess you have to be a bit overconfident to drive rallycars at the speeds they are doing.
What I like about today is that he was steadily there, no big gaps but most importantly no big drops either.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
The last part is exactly how top drivers work, they think they are the best, otherwise one couldn't do such a thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Who is Lappi's car engineer and how long have Lappi and the engineer been working together compared to the other Rally1 driver/engineer combinations?
that question was put to him at stage end and he said yes that was the reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by dupanton
Solberg has been very good today, it’s just a shame about the puncture yesterday. I genuinely hope he continues without incident to the finish.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight