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Except that they have the biggest budget, are earning 8 mil. per year profit, but giving back "proto" quality cars- exceptionally fast, with faults oftenly kicking out and ruining everything. What makes it worse, same faults at the worst possibe time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Mirek speaks wisdom as usualQuote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
You seem to have serious comprehension problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarmop
I agree completely! With a bit less bad luck, they could have won the championship easily. If they are so bad, the rest is...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Tanak carries them... look at the points... how many points did they lose to mechanical these 3 years ? how many points did other teams lost ?Quote:
Originally Posted by HaCo
they are nothing !!!
michelin video day 2
https://youtu.be/ehtugs1rbTU
The watersplash where Ogier is cutting over the concrete side at 0:22 is just before the spot where Tanak stopped. (the vid is from first pass btw.) Could be where the damage is from.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
EDIT: nvm it was a different place. Just showed it on alllive, it's a hole that he hit under braking.
Correct me, but Toyota is second year in WRC with Yaris...somebody should check the calendar....Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
which 3 years?Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
no Tanak stopped further. He jumped from junction where RBR version of stage turn left - and land hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Of course I do not wish reteirment to anybody, especially for technical reasons, but we all should be fer and say, that Tanak was the only one, who had his share of luck in Turkey....all others were efected. So, once is this period over. But, rally is far from over, Ogier is in the last time also prone to mistakes, so nothing is decided yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by HaCo
The on board is on allive (the evening "media zone" section). Tbh like Sardinia, it's not like it was completely out of his control.
Tanak has not done a single mistake this season that cost him a rally, he deserves more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ucci
Looking forward to see if Latvala can annoy Ogier tomorrow. He needs to be perfect to win, though.
Tanak will go flat out for the PS which I hope he'll win, even if just for a handful of points.
Paddon will let Neuville pass probably, what if Mikkelsen passes Ostberg? Will he drop behind Ostberg again to drop behind Neuville as well?
Neither did Latvala last year...Quote:
Originally Posted by bugwrx
And if you think about it, Neuville did very few mistakes last year that should have cost him the rally.
All these what ifs won't change a thing. It is what it is.
Also I'm fairly sure both Toyota crews are under orders to try to get ahead of Ogier tomorrow to minimize his points chances and maximize Otts.
well, sorry to disappoint you but i was very pissed off at that moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomhlord
but still, i cant understand how they cant sort out some of their issues, for example the stalling with handbrake which also happens very often.
this really caused it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXZTqGxhlWg
thats not even a hard hit
It seems to me that Toyota generally took more risky approach. You win something on speed and You loose something on reliability. How can we judge if that astrategy works or not other than by results? In this moment they are leading the manufacturer championship and even though they might not win the driver's title we simply can not say that their strategy has been failing.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
I don't think Lappi can do much this time. They might tell him to bring it home to get some manufacturer points at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
Tänaks first words for estonian media: "The sump guard came off and broke the radiator, what can i say, thats life. The game still isnt over yet but at this moment when you have made all the hard work it is so hard. Of course i will still try but if you look what points were taken away from us then it is painful. The power stage is on the first pass tomorrow and we will be last ones so it will be hard but i will go for maximum"
Lappi joking about Breen fire at Turkey https://www.facebook.com/wrc.driver....6627956139553/ ))))
Unbelievable if that caused it.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
I heard Porter mentioning a hard impact at the end of previous stage which seem to have caused initial damage (watched the onboard, indeed it was hard over a compression). The above just made it terminal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
Same as in Sardegna, jump and land on rock or something hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
If that prev. stage damaged was critical - he even couldn't reach a stage start. And now from video it's clear. Jump → hard landing → lost a speed and power → parked after 100m.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
You don't understand. In Sweet Lamb (already broken) part of the bumper drilled a hole in the radiator.Quote:
Originally Posted by KKS
Guess Neuville didn't care about opening the road on Sunday, nothing to gain from where he is... well, except PS points.
Read in an interview with Mikkelsen that they think it will polish tomorrow also, i thought those stages would have dried up today
Passats de canto video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5aAKyv2RwM
"I arrived a little too fast, I undersigned ... I pulled the handbrake, and the rear landed in the ditch, said Thierry Neuville at the microphone of Olivier Gaspard, RTBF's special correspondent in Wales, I was posed, I skated, I could not move on, I did not think about the championship, I just hoped there were enough spectators push the car so we can start again as soon as possible! "Finally, it did not take long: after forty seconds, we were gone.
The only point "positive" for the leader of the World Championship this Saturday is the abandonment of his rival Ott Tanak, who flew over the rally before being betrayed by his mechanics (broken radiator).
"It's the same scenario we experienced in Turkey: in the lead on the second day, and an abandonment on mechanical concerns, it's part of the race, the rally."
Never in the rhythm of the best, however, Thierry Neuville will have to try to move up the rankings and score points in the Power Stage Sunday, his other opponent in the race for the title, Sebastien Ogier, having risen from fifth to first position .
"In front, now there is a big fight with four cars in less than fifteen seconds, I think the situation will still evolve, said the Hyundai driver.My teammates, right in front of me, will probably agree to help me a little bit! Sunday, it's not too bad to go in the first positions, although it's never easy to know in advance what exactly will be. I'll be the first to take the road, we'll see! We'll give everything in the Power Stage, we have no choice.We have never really been in the rhythm of the best this weekend, so it will be difficult to get the five points, but a few, it's possible. "
https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/ra...le?id=10038604
Perhaps this shakedown off has something to do with the later damage of Tanak's car... https://youtu.be/THtyWLpWV04?list=PL...15AAw6fIN8yU6E
How come? They changed the parts after that.
Our mechanics and engineers did exellent job this evening and we are happy to tell you, that the car of @OttTanak and Martin Järveoja #8 is ready to hit the roads - so it is Rally 2 tomorrow
https://twitter.com/tgr_wrc/status/1...448432641?s=21
He really does overthink things!Quote:
Originally Posted by KKS
Citroën/Tanak/Neuville/Mikkelsen: 5 MICHELIN LTX Force S6
Lappi: 5M6
Latvala/Ogier/Evans: 2S6 +3M6
Paddon: 4S6 +1M6
yep. And if that problem yesterday caused by that off at shakedown - he never survive 1.5 days and 200+ km of special stages and problem didn't come of. If it's shakedown damage it will pop-up at Friday morning stages. And it's unlikely that in 4 services they didn't spot problem with a radiator.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Lappi play a long game?Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL