NO, Toyota is selling current Mazda2 as Toyota in USA. (car in those pictures)Quote:
Originally Posted by ToughMac
Toyota R5 could be some other model than Yaris...
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NO, Toyota is selling current Mazda2 as Toyota in USA. (car in those pictures)Quote:
Originally Posted by ToughMac
Toyota R5 could be some other model than Yaris...
i know im writing this on emotion right now but....
so sick of these punctures, alternator, driveshaft, brake and other sick dog issues.
whats the point of the fastest car when it breaks every time the stages are little rougher, the list of problems they had on this rally is just ridiculous, more than some other teams have with whole season.
something needs to be done fast.
Citroen with only 3 points less than them tells a lot with basically only Ogier carrying them
Sadly I feel the same although the car itself is fast but speed is sacrificed with reliability...Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Something definitely needs to be done because car has zero reliability although being the fastest one for most of the time. In this manner, it will ruin every driver's chances for a good long term result and they will definitely lose the WCC. In Tanak's place and if nothing changes, I would definitely double think before resigning for TGR.
Where would he go, to Citroen? Get realQuote:
Originally Posted by Pršljen
You get real. He is 30+ points behind after only 5 rallies. Let's how the season unfolds but this doesn't look any good. Neither for Toyota nor Ott.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
M-Sport? They are waiting for him with open arms, if he chooses.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
But it is not so tragic at the moment as it seems, just upseting. There are 9 rallies to go. If these problems come back to haunt again, then it is quite bad indeed.
Ofcourse it's still early to say, but the signs are there; this is alarmingly starting to look like third consecutive year for TGR, in which they lose their bid for the drivers title mainly due to technical issues.
For Tänak I guess the temptation of a M-Sport return for 2020 is growing rally by rally...
Things can change very quickly. Everyone was virtually handing Tanak the 2019 Title a few weeks ago....
As for where he can go... M-Sport. ;)
It is yes, especially when you think about the 8 mil. euros profit that TGR WRT running made...a bit more should have gone into development, especially in the areas that tend to fail for a third year in a row.
Eddie, always like that, last year he was said to be out of the fight after Sardegna or something like that...hell, someone suggested even after rally Sweden win, that this means 0. :D
Yes that's the only real possibly and imo it might be quite real. M-Sport was saying how they were continuing development and aiming for signing "top driver" next year. There is only one guy without contract who can without any doubt be called "top driver" atm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarmop
Btw. after SS10 (fastest stage on Saturday) Tanak was asked about Toyota being so fast on these stages (Neuville said so) and he basically said "just my Toyota is so fast". The wording was a bit different but the message was similar to Neuville's comment at this very rally in 2017.
EDIT: He says it in the media zone before service on Saturday. On alllive it's on "SS13" 6:20 in. Tanak says "it's only my car. So it looks like the guys have done a good job, just with my car".
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About the "reliability":
I have been saying this since GB last year that they often seem to run very "risky" setups. Low rideheight, crashes down trough the very soft suspension etc. With all those impacts it's not surprising things break. Recent example is Tanak cracking windscreen here on Friday then a bit later the driveshaft failed (also on front).
When they didn't do this kind of risky setup (in Turkey), they didn't have speed at all though.
And Tanak won anyway. In a rough rally like Turkey, Argentina and even Mexico, they should maybe sacrifice speed with a safer setup.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Well...apart from last years Turkey, hasn`t been a key to success in Mexico and Argentina and wasn`t this year. The end result would be like it was today, except with no chance for a "lucky" win.
Post #522 in this thread has a link to an autosport article with an interview with one of Toyota's techs. They know they risk performance and safety with setup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pršljen
https://scontent.fhen1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...43&oe=5D3497C3
Looks like some fan wanted to offer a solution to alternator problem. But nobody home on sunday.
lol... that village finnish team is becoming an internet joke...
lets see when the autistic japanese bosses wake up and kick the money leeches out of the team.
estonian press doesnt leave Tommi alone and they wanted more specific answer to yesterdays retirement cause. Tommi didnt say much but his answer is: "The problem was in electrical system, not alternator" followed by his typical comment "it will be solved"
Total waste of time. Understandable answers and Mäkinen is just an impossible combination.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
hahaha true. He literally says nothing just smile. In his lifetime career working around the world he could at least get some decent instructor to teach him English 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
Tommi should get into the politics, he's so good at answering around the question and talking without saying anything.
And it's not only due to language barrior. He has that amazing ability to speak without saying anything specific also in Finnish.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
So, he is the perfect manager in such sircumstans :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
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Well, if Toyota wasn't that damn fast, nobody would have know the name Tanak. I have the feeling that he likes to show off, hence he likes it that way.
... and BTW, one should become champ, and then start to make movies ;)
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https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...27/689/ef8.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by jparker
you autism shows...Quote:
Originally Posted by jparker
back to the hole you crawled out from...
Tanak chasing 2019 titlehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...d2c7330d91.jpg
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Oops, wrong picture. That's N.O.T in action
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Except that Ott has done very little of what is called "crashing." He has been fantastic and almost dominant, but the car has let him down on several occasions. Your comment is confusing. What do you think Ott has done that causes you to think he is a showoff and has caused his own problems?Quote:
Originally Posted by jparker
Bold claim: JML would have won the championship in 2017 if the Yaris was more reliable. Tänak would have won last year as well. Electrical and suspension related problems seem to continually plague the Yaris. How is this the drivers' fault?
Why do you bother with him?Quote:
Originally Posted by OHL
No Neuville would won it if he wouldn't rip off that wheel at SS in Sweden...Quote:
Originally Posted by OHL
As well as suffering water-related misfires, the Toyotas all suffered brake problems ranging from pad knock-off to a mysterious seized piston on Meeke's car.Quote:
Originally Posted by wrc2017
The lack of brakes caused Meeke to run wide and hit a rock, but hitting the rock freed the piston and brought the brakes back.
Amazing if true...
I'm glad I'm not the only insane person that thinks this :) Latvala was clearly in the championship battle going into Poland. If the car hadn't broken down he'd have scored points for third (or second) in Poland, points for first in Finland, and likely points in Spain and Germany. And, considering his theoretical championship chance come Australia, he probably wouldn't have crashed out on the PS.Quote:
Originally Posted by OHL
Shamefully something must have gone askew somewhere because his past two seasons haven't been so good.
I'm excited to see whether Latvala can take a win in Finland this year. Both Finland and Sweden used to be his territory but Tanak took them both last year. Luckily he drove really well in Argentina, so I don't think it's such a far fetched hope.
we can only image how dominant that yaris must have been in 2017 to make even latvala look good. with some good drivers they would have easily won both the constructor and the drivers championship.
Latvala would've been in the championship battle for a lot longer granted, but he wouldn't have won it in 2017. Neuville lost that title. And to expect Latvala to cope with the pressure in a battle with Ogier and Neuville going into the last few rounds, is a pipe dream. He'll never win a title and his pace has fallen away over the last few years.
It doesn't matter what has happened since. Who knows, maybe Ogier would have taken it anyway. But the thing is, that in 2017, if ever, JML was in title-winning form. Shame that TGR wasn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
TGR cost him a chance at the title, I'll happily admit that. But it's too big a leap to go any further based on Jari's career.
It was only because Neuville was such a "sick dog" that there was even a championship up for grabs for anyone (whether it was Jari/Tanak or Ogier). 50pts thrown away in Monte and Sweden and messy rallies later in the year cost Thierry massively.
Three threads talking about the same news. Where should I comment it? :D
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