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Maybe running a fever or smthing.. or one moner per team allowed ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
In the wake of the announcement of the arrival of Sébastien Loeb at Hyundai Motorsport for six WRC 2019 events, the Korean manufacturer's focus is on the preparations for the next season, which will start at the end of January at the Monte Rally. -Carlo.
A test that Loeb will tackle with very little running, in the wake of his Dakar participation on a Peugeot 3008 DKR operated by the PH Sport structure. But the presence of the nine-time world champion can bring only the most according to Thierry Neuville.
"We are three drivers to have the same feelings, the same comments, told us the vice-world champion 2018. If now Sebastien Loeb arrives more and abounds in this direction, we will be four. If we can not convince our technicians to change things, then they have to ask questions. "
The Belgian also specifies to have immediately "supported" the recruitment of French, achieved in priority to win the crown Manufacturers, eagerly desired by the entity based in Alzenau in Germany.
"It's been a while since I knew there were contacts. They were discussing it, he had tried the car ... When I was confronted with the question internally, I was immediately for! It can only be good.
From the moment he does not do all the championship, he will be there to help us in the fight for the Constructors title, but also for the Drivers. For the latter, it is impossible to claim by not competing 14 rallies.
It's a welcome extra help. I am delighted and if, with his contribution, we can get even closer to the titles and why not pick them up, that would be the ideal scenario. And it's better to have it with you than against you! "
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Last year at this time, Neuvile said " Loeb, not sure he could keep up with the pace" :)
"If now Sebastien Loeb arrives more and abounds in this direction, we will be four. If we can not convince our technicians to change things, then they have to ask questions."
Interesting thing that he say, maybe Paddon was only that was pushing for changes and that's why he was dropped despite loyalty...
It sounds weird if Paddon would be the only one, and not Mikkelsen as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
Before spain 2018
"WRC Crew Notes: Mikkelsen/Jćger (#4 Hyundai i20 Coupe WRC)
• Strong performances in Turkey and Wales Rally GB unrewarded for Norwegians
• Improved feeling in the i20 Coupe WRC bodes well for Spain
Mikkelsen said: “We have made important steps in the past few rallies, which have not really been reflected in our overall results. The feeling and rhythm I have had with the i20 Coupe WRC has allowed me to pick up stage wins and to fight at the top end of the field. This is greatly encouraging. Rally Spain could be good for us. I feel that we have made some improvements on tarmac in preparation for this event. We have to see if all our homework pays off. It will be a crucial rally for the championship, so we have to be on top of our game.”
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Originally Posted by René
Reality has a way of pointing out our errors....Even to a Belge. (and if you look at my name you'll see you know what I am talking about for I too have the Belge blood in my veins---along with the traditionally very thick skull....)
I'm just guessing, since Neville said that they are four now. Maybe Mikkelsen is quiet and play by other strings, I don't know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Myrvold
Something may be lost in translation here. Is it the suggestion that all drivers other than Paddon were happy with the car and only he was pushing for set up changes? And that is why he was dropped? If so, which I doubt, that is beyond crazy. Paddon is renowned for his technical know-how and is credited with the transmission changes which made the car drive-able. The theory is simply nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
It's 100% clear that 2 of those 3 are Neuville and Mikkelsen.
Neuville was the one answering the interview. Mikkelsen has terrible tarmac pace, has been vocal about struggling with the car on tarmac whole year and is buddy with Neuville.
The quotes by Zeakiwi are tanken out of context. They are from before Spain when Hyundai made the only changes to the car on tarmac for the whole year (according to Mikkelsen this was 8 months after he asked for some changes).
The 3rd one can be either Paddon or Sordo. If it's about the car in general Paddon is more likely, if it's about tarmac it can be Sordo as well. (and since Neuville seemingly doesn't get well along with Paddon it is more likely he would mention Sordo)
The conspiracy theories some people here try to spin around are truly amazing. Specially since 1 month ago numerous NZ people here were pointing out how loyal Paddon is not complaining about the car while Mikkelsen does it often.
Neuville says 3 drivers including him agree on something that some technicians don't agree on.Quote:
Originally Posted by sollitt
Note that he does not say some driver does not agree. Might even mean that he means all 3 drivers currently in the team or all 3 drivers that drove the car on tarmac this year.
well clearly something was wrong with the way the car had to be driven to be fast.
I also read it as the 3 current drivers in the team, Paddon not included in the 3.
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I understand that he meant that the 3 drivers currently in the team were complaining about the car, and if Loeb says the same it will be 4. I'm not sure why the team seem reluctant to change the car, they only have to go and stand out on the stages and watch it on dry tarmac and they would surely see the same as the rest of us.
Doubled 1978 is on the money. Nueville is saying they have complained to the engineers and the engineers do not believe them. If the almighty (Loeb) also complains then the engineers will listen. This is the exact scenario which took place with Citroen and the gang. When the almighty speaks... people listen.
if the engineers don't listen to their star driver neuville who has done 7 season, or to sordo who has done 12, why would they listen to loeb?
i doubt that the engineers not listening really is the case, but if it is actually true they all should be fired on the spot.
I think the main problem with the hyundai is the very fragile component between the seat and the wheel... i mean a component that breaks while having a 25+ point lead and just fails on superspecials while leading by a safe margin is unacceptable for any professional team... my suggestion to the hyundai team is to get rid of that component as soon as possible we already have a natural born loser in latvala in the sport.
the problem is that there is no better alternative for that component. they had twice the chance to hire ogier, but they failed.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
word. yeah, they signed a new three year deal with componentQuote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Reality is that there is only 1 driver who did better last 5-6 years. Neuville has been 2nd behind Ogier in the championship 4 times.
If you continue that way of thinking, you need to sack everybody but Ogier?
Yep, Neuville is a great driver but if he’s really complaining about the i20 development it’s a shame to be talking to the press (just like Meeke did in Citroen); internal issues should be discussed in house, not in public.
Anyway, it seems he has understood that Loeb will be there mainly to help Hyundai getting the manus title; next year even Neuville may have to put the team interests above his personal targets.
Manufacturer's will be the priority for sure. They need a Title for all the money they've put in so far.
Neuville's best two chances have gone.
The difference is, overall, Ogier hasn't had the best car without the biggest budget behind him for the last two years and he's beaten Neuville.Quote:
Originally Posted by dupanton
If he was in the Hyundai, he probably would have had it home and dry in that car too... whereas Neuville just can't stitch it together.
2019 will be different, as Tanak will be the man with the target on his back... if they can get the superglue to set on the Toyota, he will be untouchable.
I agree that Ogier was better than Neuville previous seasons. But Mikkelsen, Sordo, Latvala, Lappi, Evans, Suninen, Meeke, Ostberg, Breen... weren't.Quote:
Originally Posted by T16
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Originally Posted by dupanton
Some people have a strange way of mocking the people who come 2nd sometimes, rather than seeing them as doing better than everyone bar the winner. In all sports. Crucially, would you say that Neuville is one of the most likely 3 drivers to challenge Ogier and claim WRC wins (and get Hyundai publicity)? If so, then it's completely correct that Hyundai back him 100%.
Anyway, he's there next year, let's see how he does.
That's unfortunately the way some people see things nowadays. And as you said, in all sports (let alone politics...). Either you win or you're nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by dodge33cymru
I think they call it trolling, along with the frustration Ogier always wins - the frustration is then forwarded against the challenger.Quote:
Originally Posted by dodge33cymru
If you’re referring to my post, then how on earth can you say I’m trolling?Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
I just basically said Ogier did a better job (or Neuville did a worse job, whichever way you look at it) when he had less resources at his disposal.
I’ve got nothing at all against any of the drivers, don’t have favourites (saying that, I like Latvala’s disposition and cheeriness) but I can’t help thinking that Neuville just didn’t have what it took to rise to the (very) top over the last couple of years.... especially given the money they’ve thrown at the job.
Not Yours, I meant the previous trolling one.Quote:
Originally Posted by T16
Oops.. sorry pal, I thought what you posted was linked to what I wrote... my fault I got it wrong..Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
All the best.
NP;), there is no mistake if we say the trolls will cheer for the latter if he managed to do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by T16
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We have announced a change to our senior management for the forthcoming @OfficialWRC season with Team Principal Michel Nandan departing the company after six years. #HMSGOfficial #WRC
Hyundai Motorsport extends its sincerest thanks to Michel for his significant contribution to the team’s growth and development over the past six years, and we wish him all the best for the future.
Andrea Adamo will take on the new role of Team Director, heading up our WRC activities with immediate effect, in addition to his existing duties with the i20 R5 and i30 N TCR programs.
Nothing against M. Nandan but, as Team Manager, he had to take responsibility for the failure of the team to win the 2018 title. One can add all the "ifs" and "buts" they like, but I'm 100% sure that is how the Hyundai management saw it.
Adamo is now seriously busy. But he's responsible for making the Hyundai TCR car the best on the market and world cup winners.
This was probably inevitable after no title wins when they had their best chances.
The new man has an even tougher job.
Well from the outside it seems relatively inevitable.
In 2017 they had the best car, didn't win any titles due to
- driver errors (Neuville, not directly Nandans fault),
- reliability issues,
- performance issues in Finland and Spain
- Paddon struggling (two are Nandans fault, 3rd partly).
This is ok for one season, the big issue is that in 2018 they also loose both titles for almost same reasons:
- reliability issues, both parts and mechanic related
- performance issues in Finland and now all tarmac rounds
- Mikkelsen struggling
So the only part that really improved was Neuville making less mistakes. Other things were same or worse.
I suspect that the difference of job titles between the out-going and in-coming means that perhaps Andreas hasn't been the only one to fight being shifted, since it's been well-known that Nandan was leaving for some time (I noted quite a while ago he was a 'no show' when the entire Hyundai Motorsport staff (over 140 people!) was flown to Korea for an end of season trip....
One wonders if Adamo will just have this role for a certain amount of time until a full replacement can be hired after they serve their notice period at another employer...
Step up FX? Shift over Sven? How about a new challenge, Jost?
Please, no Capito. I still have nightmares about him in rallying...
it's normal that without results, you would be sacked. the only one in rally world who wasn't sacked despite numerous mistakes is J-M Latvala. but that is another story :P
He have a hot wifeQuote:
Originally Posted by Barreis