Where was there an issue with spectators in SS17?
From Camilli's onboard everything looks fine apart from a marshall on the road close to the finish...
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Where was there an issue with spectators in SS17?
From Camilli's onboard everything looks fine apart from a marshall on the road close to the finish...
guess who's coming shortly to prove you wrong...Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
you'll be dealt with very soon...
What are you talking about?Quote:
Originally Posted by danon
In Ogier service zone, after the celebration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAgoOwzlPdk
isnt it a bit low?
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Sordos and Neuvilles fathers
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lol
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All respect to that friend who tested both, no idea who he is... But I know national drivers in Belgium (some of the better drivers here) who admitted they don't feel the difference between the Fiesta R5 and the Fiesta R5 Evo (talking just about the engine evolution)... Maybe the difference is too small for most (or even all) drivers to feel it, but it is there. Also from what I heard the Skoda is a very different car to drive than the Fiesta. All we can rely on is the results in both national and international championships. And we can see that everywhere people who drive Skoda's are adapting and getting good results very quickly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Pretty nice video !!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuszf6DC3vA
tommeke_B by respect i can't reveal who is, but he tested full evo of Fiesta with chassis updates too and a Fabia with litle km in same stage. Fabia and Fiesta driving style are bit different but he told me that the cars are not so different. If you have drivers as Kopecky, Suninen, Lappi in one and Al-Suwadi, Turan in other...
For me is very clear that the car is not driver alone ;)
another one nice video with some new interesting spots.
https://youtu.be/wAHnSCN3Rk8
https://youtu.be/31_hUWpCSzE
sry if it is repeated..
I keep watching plenty of videos and in all of them I can see pretty crazy driving from Suarez. I wonder how he could make it to the finish :)
same could be said about Mikkelsen too...i was so sure Mikkelsen wouldnt come to the end but it still happened. Paddon also had so many lucky moments.
Apart from spectator dying and Lefebvres crash it was a great rally. The fight for 2 place was awesome till the end.
What our Motorsport is really about! 2nd, 3rd and 4th places!Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
I can't believe I wrote that haha
Well, least we can say, good to see Ogier winning a round again! How boring, Meeke and Ogier on two wins each and so many other winners.
A great season and I love it. (no sarcasm in this post) =)
Back home from Trier. Feeling tired a lot after long day yesterday, it starting from leaving Panzerplatte after 8PM on Saturday, having a short sleep, early to Dhrontal and after the stages to airport, just to sit in a plane almost two hours waiting for it to be fixed... Because rallying.
Anyway, fifth consecutive visit to Rallye Deutschland. This year our journey focused solely on the event, no roadtrip prior to event, just straight from the airport to recce SS Freisen. We landed in on Tuesday morning and did Freisen, Bosenberg and Sauertal on Tuesday. On Wednesday we did the vineyard stages Mittelmosel, Dhrontal and Moselland in a row and shakedown and Ollmuth later on. Vineyard stages are quite slow to recce, especially Moselland this year as there were now sign post (taken out after recce) and it took too much map reading to be really able to focus on the stage. We have done several stages on prior years, but never in this extent. We picked up some interesting points balancing on preferences of crash potential and interesting sections to take photos. Afterwards, I should've picked faster points to spectate, actually only super fast as 3rd gear or any lower are very boring to spectate in Germany. Still learning...
The most spectacular place I did was already on shakedown, the super fast left with haybale and several hoooot moments. Soon the stage was stopped due to spectator emergency. That brought a dark cloud over the mood. Things like this just happen, though. Near the end of shakedown I walked to the corner where Abbring hit the curb last year, but it was cleaner this year.
After the shakedown the traditional stop over at service park. It've turned to more commercial over the past few years with more promotional lounges and activities for visitors. I found this positive - manufacturers hopefully feel they get return on their investments. Seeing factory cars being prepared has been made distant, but anything else is still close and intimate. Met some friends and drivers, made it nice stop. Later in the evening we joined the ceremonial start behind Porta Nigra, chatting with several drivers, all happy to stop for a few questions.
I won't go stage by stage, to keep the story short. On Friday we did three stages, on Saturday four stages and on Sunday three stages. Clearly in common with all places was that there were not much other spectators, or at all. On Mittelmosel 1 I hid behind bushes in an absolutely safe place at the corner where Maurin went off. Marshalls must've felt what the f*** when I jumped out of nowhere with tow rope :-) However, cars in vineyard hillsides are extremely heavy to pull back, we would've need two ropes and 20-25 men, and as marshalls were not helping out, Maurin's rally ended there. Marshalls did not (added) even knew how to warn cars properly.
On Ollmuth, the spectator stage, we were on forest right with two of us, two marshalls 30 metres away and two other spectators 60 metres away. Nice and quiet, except cool soundscape with a lot of cars coming regularly. I liked the concept. Same in Power Stage, it was just us and two locals. And we didn't chose place because they would be far from other spectators, it just happened.
Other stages we did were Freisen and Panzerplatte twice and Dhrontal twice. Two cancelled stages were of course disappointing, but things like that happen. I think there were somewhat less people this year. No traffic jams, no spectators on dangerous places apart from few. Sense of safety was far higher than in previous years for me.
I mentioned the need for speed on spectating places earlier. I can't grab why the sense of speed seems lacking from spectator experience. It does not when you are on 5th or 6th gear place, but practically everything slower just doesn't do it for me. On onboards and some fan videos however the speed is definitely there. In short, I should've stayed on vineyards straights rather than anything else.
Competition wise it clearly wasn't all clear for Ogier to grab this. He's specializing on Panzerplatte, though Sordo and Neuville were not that far behind. Everyone else though - let's check the difference from calendar. Big shame Latvala couldn't do one clean stage before retiring. On Rally2 he was not really going anywhere. Lack of WRC crews were just sad. It was over all so soon. WRC2 field had a strong entry, but on stages it was a Kopecky show. Lappi, Suninen, Suarez (had not checked his times, but liked his approach) and Kremer were nice to watch too. Few good crews had an early retirements, so it flattened the race. In general I would've wanted one or two up and coming stars late in the field to be waiting for. Griebel and Tannert were such, but for example DDFT or OAC had no such effect for me this year.
Although I've been bitching here a bit, Rallye Deutschland is very nice event, ever-so well-organised, interesting to due to different character of stages and surfaces, weather changes and small margins for error. The planned change for next year propably takes nothing or not much away from that. New stages are always welcomed!
Video WRC Deutschland 2016 enjoy https://youtu.be/ZO68Dj9q0Gw
Lots of good videos from this rally. Thanks everybody.
My video is online! A very fast rally with some spectacular full speed action.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOjFdA1EcXA
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video online germany rally.
The program for this video quite large passages with pins, jumps, flat out but also some mistakes and unfortunate crash Quentin Giordano.
good viewing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZDRYtWmGqI
Suarez looks like a Torero on the run chased by wild bulls in Pamplona who got away alive in one piece...
close calls compilation >>> https://www.facebook.com/DefiendeLos...7917686060959/
He's not gonna win rallies driving like that, but he certainly will get new fans :)Quote:
Originally Posted by danon
Had a nice weekend @ Germany.
We did shakedown / 2x Mittelmosel / 2x Freisen + 2x Panzerplatte long / 2x Dhrontal + powerstage.
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more pics here: https://www.facebook.com/rallyimage/...89283197750229
I renewed my subscription in Germany. :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by b3637853
based on that video he just looks plain old dangerous to himself, co-driver, car, spectators, trees, bales, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by danon
a tad more caution needs to be exercised...i think he is a much better driver than what he has displayed here
yes same impression with me.With fiesta he wasnt driving like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by gorganl2000
Some impressions from past weekend... my first time in Germany. Compared to other rallies it was quite hard or sometimes impossible to get good shots as the spectators areas were quite far from the stages. I am still adding the photos in the albums, enjoy!
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I am adding others into the facebook gallery and on my racemedia.si page, feel free to stop by...
FIA could change Germany's famous Panzerplatte stage after Lefebvre's horrific crash:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report...ge-after-crash
Right, vineyards are much safer than trees, omg.
The safety trend is ...letīs say interesting. After Solbergīs crash nobody said anything, but now everybody wants at least circuit racing safety. And we are talking about same persons who had no problems to drive thru crowd of fans in 80s without saying a word ...kind of hypocrisy ...greetings to Ari :D
Daft really as if anything the hinkelsteins kept Lefebvre on the road for longer in that accident. The damage was all done due to a high-speed impact with a tree. Which can happen all over the world - it's not unique to Baumholder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Itīs not Hinkelsteins. Itīs the increasing speed which is the problem. Will be even higher next year.
And thatīs what everybody want.
Lol. So is ok to give more bhp to cars and go at faster speed between trees but it's not ok to have two rocks on a couple of corners.
Those men really lacks logic most of the times
Hilkensteins are unnecessary danger.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
Rallying is unnecessary danger.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T