Tsjoen (Fabia) and Delecour (207) already on the list too. Nice last minute entries!
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Tsjoen (Fabia) and Delecour (207) already on the list too. Nice last minute entries!
M-Sport says that they have sold 18 R5´s
source: iRally
Tamrazov ordered one. Source: Bernardo Sousa.Quote:
Originally Posted by tolis
Great, maybe we could see Bernardo with one :)
Lukyanuk also ? Any news on the rumors about latvian team ASRT ?
Heard a rumour that 2 or 3 drivers from Paraguay are interested in the Fiesta R5. They are really close the deal, if they hadn't already done it.
ASRT team has confirmed that they are going to purchase two R5 cars. But in same time it sounded like they don't want to rush things by grabbing first available R5 in market.Quote:
Originally Posted by miniwintz
Regarding Lukyanuk - there is chance/plans to see him in NORF on Evo X and next year in full ERC campaign as well. Of course, neither of it is 100% sure.
Fiesta R5 for Al Ketbi... gulftoday.ae | Skydive Dubai Rally Team drivers Ketbi and Hepperle ready for Rally d
How is the mapping going to be with the R5 cars?
Here a “source” says:
"The idea is that this car can be taken away to Peru, South Africa, Australia, anywhere and just driven without the need for an engineer."
and here M-Sport's commercial director John Steele says:
“It is intended that this car will be able to be used in regional series with the minimum amount of technical support from the engineers here."
Does this mean that the mapping is the same all the time or are there different options for different rallies to be downloaded to the ECU by someone?
Looking at the Citroen DS3 R3T DS3 R3 kit rates mapping options, there’s only options for different fuels or some intervention done by a Citroen engineer (during a rally or as a separate request).
How about the engine rebuilding? Is it going to be possible to be done by a team’s mechanics or has it to be done by the car developer’s mechanics, for example M-Sport (as I think they would wish to be the case because of more revenue)?
Who is doing the engine rebuilding of the Citroen DS3 RT3 engines, the team or Citroen Racing?
I think mapping will be the same all the time, only different options for different fuels. Same like it is with S2000 ECUs - those from R5 should also be locked.
Different will be manufacturer, in Fiesta S2000 that is Pectel-Cosworth, in R5 it will be LifeRacing. Also wiring will be cheaper - cheaper wires, connectors, etc.
I don't know about engine rebuilds in R5. In S2000 they are mostly done by M-Sport.
Thanks br21. :)
Is Renault building R5?
According to info from M-Sport reubilds will be after 2000 kms and it is only one part of car which cannot be rebuild by team themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by br21
Aha, so same like with S2000, only 500kms more between rebuilds.Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
From what I know top-S2000's had 600km between rebuilds (very last engines). Most "common" used at Peugeot have 1200km between rebuilds. So it is quite a difference. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by br21
Arent the DS3R3 engines rebuilt by Oreca only?
If not they should be.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordini
I think that top-S2000 is also Fabia and it has more than 600kms between rebuilds...Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Peugeot had in one engine evolution those 600kms, now it's way more again, I think they changed pistons or sth. similar and rebuild period is now quite acceptable. In Fiesta it's 1500kms, in Fabia I don't know exact figures, but surely way more than 600kmsQuote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
600 km was a case of Peugeot S2000 engine.
Anyway it also matters how much the rebuild costs. For example Fiesta RRC and Fabia or Peugeot S2000 are in same class but engine rebuild of the RRC is 3-4x more expensive.
According to Autosport Portugal, (in last october) they said they will build a R5 car, but not was ever heard on that matter again. Pablo Macchi wrote in his facebook that they will have a R5 and a Maxi Rally (argentina top rally car) as well! Let's wait for itQuote:
Originally Posted by Gordini
:)
Still some way to go to achieve the 3000-5000 km durability which at least Peugeot Sport is aiming for.
An increase of the rebuilding interval from 1500 km to 2000 km don’t look so big at the first look but it mean a reduction of the rebuilding cost by 25%/km assuming same rebuilding cost as the Fiesta S2000.
The interval could be bigger of course.
And for a little championship like we have in Portugal 500 km it's almost a new season! 5 rallys with less than 100 km a season, you can do 4 instead of 3! That is money savingQuote:
Originally Posted by OldF
Don t Forget that, probably every driver that will buy a R5 will do at least one of the 3 Big Ralis,and you are also missing the km from the tests, aren't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFlyingTuga
That is not as you are writing
Motortune Racing from Lebanon ordered a Fiesta R5. It'll make the debut in Rally of Lebanon!
polo10, you're right, I forgot the testing (my face is red know). And you're probably right about one of the 3Big ones as well, but they are not mandatory...! Even so, the car will last longer than a S2000!Quote:
Originally Posted by polo10
Just out of curiosity... your polo is a skoda know ;) ???
Watching Ypres test footage (Ford&Pug), apparently R5 does not have the impact foams in the doors?
Reports that Prodrive staff are over in the Ypres service park looking at the R5s.
Nothing to speculate about the news, unfortunately.....
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Brynildsen's R5
Don't know if this has been reported already but Meeke said the 208 won't be homologated until 1st January 2014. He made great emphasis that there is still work to do on the engine.
It seems that Skoda can do the same again and do loads of testing and not homologate until they have the best car again :)
Skoda will be late into R5 with the new shape Fabia so Ford and Peugeot will have a head start.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Didn't hurt them with the S2000..Quote:
Originally Posted by noel157
True.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Suppose Fiat had a head start too.
But it is a pity that Skoda will not debut early next season, would certainly make things very interesting.
Renault and Toyota eventually too would be good.
Anybody know if this guy Boullier is any good?
From: Ypres ERC: Freddy Loix on course for eighth victory - ERC news - AUTOSPORT.com
"Hunting down Bryan Bouffier for second has not proved so simply.
After Breen initially carved into his fellow Peugeot driver's advantage, Boullier began to inch away again, bringing the gap back up to half a minute."
"Simply"?
Any timings from Ypres for the R5's?
Here is what I found.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
http://www.motorsportforums.com/erc/...ml#post1142236Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
Quote:
Originally Posted by adr17
Meeke talks about T16 development and performance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnVGftX8Xbg
On the last stage (which was cancelled after all) Neuville did 15m57s. Can't find Sołowow time (ss 20) but it was sth about 16m45s. Considering that Loix was about 1s/km quicker that him, when he was pushing, S2000 is about 1s/km slower than R5.
A tweet from Colin Clart might indicate it's correct value:
Quote:
Colin Clark
Spoken with the boys in the R5s and looks like they are 1sec/km quicker than S2000. Feeling is they are at least 1.5sec/km slower than WRC.
Anyone know what top speeds the R5s were recording on Ypres? This could have been a big advantage there.
Having watched some more footage from Ypres, the Peugeot really sounds a lot better than the Ford. The Fiesta barely sounds better than Aigner's Impreza :(
I thought the engine rules for R5 should have made them rev higher and sound better than RRC for example, but at the moment they seem to have neither low down torque nor rev particularly high. I know the limit is 7500RPM but it doesn't sound like they are using that, other than in top gear?