Your opinion on 'Drag Reduction System'

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5th July 2011, 23:15
steveaki13

Me too. JV should run for FIA president. :crazy: :s murf:
6th July 2011, 05:36
markabilly

I think, as the song goes, It is kinda of a drag.....
6th July 2011, 09:16
Big Ben

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Originally Posted by V12

Speaking of Villeneuves, can you imagine Jarama 1981 with this system in place? A classic would have become just another race.

I must say I can't. I just can't figure out how many AWESOME passes would have happened in that last lap. 1? 2? 3? 4?
6th July 2011, 12:30
V12

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Originally Posted by Big Ben

I must say I can't. I just can't figure out how many AWESOME passes would have happened in that last lap. 1? 2? 3? 4?

Awesome indeed ;) . The last lap though? none probably. Reutemann would probably have been by then well clear of Laffite having flicked the switch early in the race to get past Gilles, with Watson, de Angelis, Villeneuve and Mansell all well strung out behind, with Laffite, Watson and Elio having also used the magic button on the straight to make up for the Ferrari's power advantage to get past.

Jerez 1986 and Monaco 1992 might not have had the same tense outcome for that matter, or Imola 2005 (or was it '06, the Alonso/Schumacher battle?)
6th July 2011, 13:09
Big Ben

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Originally Posted by V12

Awesome indeed ;) . The last lap though? none probably. Reutemann would probably have been by then well clear of Laffite having flicked the switch early in the race to get past Gilles, with Watson, de Angelis, Villeneuve and Mansell all well strung out behind, with Laffite, Watson and Elio having also used the magic button on the straight to make up for the Ferrari's power advantage to get past.

Jerez 1986 and Monaco 1992 might not have had the same tense outcome for that matter, or Imola 2005 (or was it '06, the Alonso/Schumacher battle?)

:p : I actually watched only that last lap on youtube... I didn't know how they ended up in that situation :p :. I was -3 back then.

Imola 2005 and 2006 are the best examples why passing is not everything in F1. I watched those races on the edge of my seat.
6th July 2011, 14:50
555-04Q2

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Originally Posted by Big Ben

:p : I actually watched only that last lap on youtube... I didn't know how they ended up in that situation :p :. I was -3 back then.

Imola 2005 and 2006 are the best examples why passing is not everything in F1. I watched those races on the edge of my seat.

Watching The Shoe hound Alonso and Alonso holding off The Shoe for 20 laps was brilliant :up:
6th July 2011, 19:00
D28

Having followed F1 for more decades than I care to remember, I am opposed to any electronic gizmos that attempt to solve the perennial problem of overtaking. I was aware of DRS from the beginning, but did not really understand the regulations untill Montreal, where commentators correctly explained MS "sitting duck" situation, when in 2nd place.

I studied the rules, but frankly I still do not understand them, especially in a specific race situation. Without Martin Brundle to explain each particular situation, I would be lost.
Which begs the question, What about paying spectators?
I know F1 is now almost completely a TV spectacle, still the spectators must count for something. In the dim past, before multiple pit stops, it was still difficult to track the leaders throughout a race. Track PA systems and radios were useless against the noise. How much information do current spectators have of the DRS zones, which car is enabled and so on. Is it easy to see the flaps open?
Perhaps someone who attended the Canadian Grand Prix, or any other, would like to comment on this. With all the complicated regulations, is there an information deficit for spectators?
6th July 2011, 19:27
Daniel

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Originally Posted by D28

Having followed F1 for more decades than I care to remember, I am opposed to any electronic gizmos that attempt to solve the perennial problem of overtaking. I was aware of DRS from the beginning, but did not really understand the regulations untill Montreal, where commentators correctly explained MS "sitting duck" situation, when in 2nd place.

I studied the rules, but frankly I still do not understand them, especially in a specific race situation. Without Martin Brundle to explain each particular situation, I would be lost.
Which begs the question, What about paying spectators?

Tbh if you don't understand the regulations then I'm not sure your input won't be all that valuable in this thread.
6th July 2011, 20:16
D28

I understand them enough to know their complications, and as well as many spectators would. I am simply really looking for input from a spectator angle. Seems like a reasonable enough suggestion to me.
6th July 2011, 20:25
Daniel

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Originally Posted by D28

I understand them enough to know their complications, and as well as many spectators would. I am simply really looking for input from a spectator angle. Seems like a reasonable enough suggestion to me.

But you said above that you don't understand the rules. It's not brain surgery....... I reckon you could get a 8 year old to understand the regs in regards to DRS.
6th July 2011, 20:35
D28

I said I did not understand the rules in a specific situation meaning, which cars at which part of the track can use the system, how to process all this information and keep track of all the leaders. What I really want to hear is on track experience away from TV commentators. Seems a simple enough request.
7th July 2011, 06:30
555-04Q2

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Originally Posted by D28

I studied the rules, but frankly I still do not understand them

Don't worry. The FIA doesn't understand them either. If they did, they would not enforce such stupid rules in F1.
7th July 2011, 10:47
ArrowsFA1

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Originally Posted by Daniel

I reckon you could get a 8 year old to understand the regs in regards to DRS.

Really? How would that go? How exactly would you explain DRS to someone who knew nothing about it?
11th July 2011, 12:21
airshifter

I especially liked the way DRS allowed Vettel to just fly right by Hamilton. It made the pass far too easy didn't it? :)
11th July 2011, 13:57
SGWilko

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Originally Posted by airshifter

I especially liked the way DRS allowed Vettel to just fly right by Hamilton. It made the pass far too easy didn't it? :)

Don't blame the DRS for that, Seb just can't overtake...... ;)
17th July 2011, 21:05
Garry Walker

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Originally Posted by airshifter

I especially liked the way DRS allowed Vettel to just fly right by Hamilton. It made the pass far too easy didn't it? :)

That just proves how massively incompetent Rapunzel is.
17th July 2011, 21:06
Garry Walker

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Originally Posted by airshifter

I especially liked the way DRS allowed Vettel to just fly right by Hamilton. It made the pass far too easy didn't it? :)

That just proves how massively incompetent Rapunzel is.
19th July 2011, 14:44
Big Ben

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the rule seems to be the more the merrier. Question is, out of those 600 and something passes are you going to remeber any this time next year?

This is not a rhetorical question :p . I missed most of the races this year.

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