Everywhere I saw him he looked very calm except Luetsu where he retired behind finish.Quote:
Originally Posted by cilius66
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Everywhere I saw him he looked very calm except Luetsu where he retired behind finish.Quote:
Originally Posted by cilius66
British press report that Kris Nissen was impressed by Mikkelssen but not by Lindroos.
VW + Hanninen = Cham(pion)pagne. :bounce:
lol....Quote:
Originally Posted by MJW
Mikkelsen clearly didn't attack at all. I saw him many times and he usually is extra wide everywhere and that was not the case of Finland. He almost didn't jump and it looked like he took it very easy. If cruising for millage was the order from Nissen, than for sure he did better than Lindroos who crashed twice.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Lindroos did one mistake. He drove too slow. Hardest thing to any fast driver is to drive nice and slow...
i doubt that in an evaluation drive event someone would order a driver to cruise... and i doubt even more that some would be impressed by cruising.... Both did a terrible job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
I don't speak what someone would or what if something... I wrote what I saw in Finland and other events. I'm absolutely sure Mikkelsen didn't drive like usual in Finland and that he could have gone much faster.
i am not in doubt about what you saw.... i have big doubts that nissen was impressed though.
Nissen probably knew Mikkelsen was good before Finland, so I doubt it's purely based on his performance there. Lindroos was mostly a gamble.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
mikkelsen good ?? where did he base his assumption ?? loosing to Loix in the IRC ??
Mikkelsen's good when he doesn't crash in the first stage. Loix can be a lot faster than he was with his stint at Mitsubishi.
Loix was total **** in the Hyundai and in the Mitsubishi.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
It's not always a driver's fault...Quote:
Originally Posted by logic
Granted , but he had a good car with Mitsubishi.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
That's also questionable point. Between 1996 and 2001 Tomi with Lancer won many events and achieved four titles but AFAIK in those 6 years other Mitsubishi drivers achieved only 3 (!) podiums all of them. Radstrom one, Burns two. That's hardly a success. In my opinion it was only the combination of Tomi and Lancer which was winning but the car itself wasn't a winner.
thats true, mitsubishi focused only on mäkinen. loix is defenetly a very good driver, especially on ruff tarmac. and hyundai...how could you be fast in that car?
don't agree with you, when burns was at his best in mitsubishi (98) he had decent results and he often crashed that's why the final results don't show it. but loix when he came to mitsu in 99 he was nowhere. burns had 37 SS wins in 98 and loix just 4 between 99-2001... i think that tells smt on his abilities
Are you measuring how good Freddie Loix of 2011 is based on his outings ten or more years ago? It's hard to compare his speed against WRC drivers because there are no recent starts, but on S2000 machinery and on tarmac, he is one of the fastest.
Yep Loix got a nice treatment with Toyota but when it stopped he went to Mitsubishi what was bad the car was made around Makinen and only around him and there was a clan around Tommi where Loix didn't belong. Hyundai was crap and Peugeot well yeah Corrado with the cigar..
Yes, I think Mikkelsen is good, yet not great. He was quite impressive in France and Rally GB last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Loix is a vastly experienced and fast driver, especially on asphalt. Seems you only considerate him as a 'has been', while he's still actually a very good driver in his field.
Yes a great driver in his field. What people are doing here is comparing him to Loeb and Ogier, the Ford crew and current era of drivers.
I still think Loix was a number two Driver to Tommi as Sordo was to Loeb!!!!! There to bring in the points and keep a leash on the top rivals to support the no.1 driver :)
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Agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
sordo did provide support and many many points to citroen, though loix did not...Quote:
Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
and ok he can do the job only on tarmac though and with IRC level of competition...
But Loix did bring the money to Mitsu so they could run the cars, if Mitsu would have had big support from the factory, Loix would have ended up like he did with Peugeot.Quote:
Originally Posted by makinen_fan
#WRC Yesterday i was to Volkswagen Motorsport Test Days in gravel to prepare 2013 Wrc Season and i make video [VIDEO] Image
what exactly are they testing with a fabia ?? do the polo and fabia share the same chassis or engine or something ???
Suspension, transmission etc. Polo won't be made from white paper. They have quite good start point in Fabia which is especially valuable since Polo and Fabia have almost same platform, so You it's very easy to mount parts of one into the other. Moreover Fabia 1.6T was in development for a whole year with working engine, so another experience comes from that.
Totally unprofessional approach if they actually use a fabia to test their WRC car....
Honestly, you should be a head of VW motorsport ....
Why? Polo WRC will be based on Polo-R model which has NOT been introduced so far so they can't use it anyway although it is basically very similar with Fabia platform. Compared to that Fabia is fully working car and You can test whatever You want in real rallies because You can simply homologate new parts for use in Fabia without any risk for yet not homologated Polo. For sure You understand that testing in real events against real opposition is much more valuable that somewhere on private grounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
no i should not....
you should come to Greece...here yes men and people that do not question anything thrive...
yes, but the fabia is a different car than a wrc.....sure they have similarities and they can draw some conclusions but i think to devote so many resources testing on a car that they will not use eventually i think it will not have a good outcome...we saw how their program went in Finland.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Are You aware that S2000 and WRC rules are exactly same except several point (specifically engine, flywheel, rear wing, front bumper, front asphalt brakes and windows)? That means let's say 95% of the rules are same, so it's not that different car, especially considering the fact Fabia was for one year developed as WRC and that development was stopped only few weeks a go in favor of Polo.
Have you ever ran a WRC team?Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
You definitely should as you know it all. Thus far it's just a waste of knowledge and talent combinedQuote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
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Originally Posted by cali
:D How about a waste of oxygen and DNA.
I can't believe how many people keep biting whenthe hook gets cast. :cool:
hmmm let me think.... NoQuote:
Originally Posted by logic
Have the VW run one ??? ....hmmmmmm
I am expressing my opinion here nothing more...
The Citroen team tested the wrc car for 2 years in the case of xsara and 1.5 in the case of C4 ..... and that worked well in my opinion.
the WV team so far are testing a car that is different to a WRC (around 300.000 euros different which i think its quite a difference) with various amateur drivers... so far they seem to have an amateur approach. The fact they actually do not plan to eneter at least a few rounds (so far) with their WRC car next year and go at full attack in 2013 seems a bit risky....
All the evidence show that their programm seems not to have a strategic organisational plan.
VW has ran countless other racing projects , so you arguing that they are making a mistake for "trying " to come to grips with rallying by testing a car that is under their umbrella is kind of stupid. You have no idea what they are testing or what they are doing , for all we know the gearbox could be something they built that they are testing for the WRC and many other systems on the car.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
You have no idea what they are doing with the testing , so before you jump up and say that that have no strategic organisational plan or an unprofessional approach to use the fabia as a base car you need to think about what they are doing .
I shall have you know the first Xara's rallied were converted from the FWD cars to the 4wd WRC , i guess citroen were unprofessional as well too?