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I still have most of the broadcasts on tape, the joys of school in the morning. Michael gone now sadly, if it's not a ball sport, they aren't interested, as I'm sure you've discussed with me and others on another forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by bf1_IRL
This isn't encouraging:From: autosport.com news: F1 | MotoGP | WRC | IndyCar | GP2 | Le Mans | NASCAR | F3 | DTMQuote:
Sources in the FIA have confirmed the agreement between the sport’s governing body and Red Bull Media House and Sportsman Media has still not been signed.
Wonder what the hold up is :confused:
From what I can make up, Mateschitz is someone who also sees WRC as F1 on gravel. Not really in line with the direction Todt is heading.Quote:
Originally Posted by bf1_IRL
Yep, got the same feeling when reading the article. But F1 on gravel is rallycross. WRC is a bit different as we all know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josti
I didn't find any aspect of the article encouraging at all. I was especially dismayed to read his comments about rallying not needing to be any more dangerous than it is now, regarding Todt's desire to get back to longer, endurance type events, which IMO, is the soul of the sport. If we make the sport any less dangerous than it is now, it will be go-karting for kiddies.Quote:
Originally Posted by bf1_IRL
Don't care what kind of coverage will be, just to see live WRC TV.
Even if it was just the SSS at the end of the legs, for half an hour on live motors tv on rally days, that would do for me!Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
I'd like to believe that Mateschitz's comments really mean "keep what we've got now, because we know it works". And as the incoming promoter, that makes sense - not just because it will be cheaper for them, but because they will gain experience promoting the events, thereby making it easier in the future if the FIA does encourage longer routes. That said, the promoter will have only a minimal ability to influence the rules. If Todt really wants endurance events, I'm sure he'll get them because he has the power to introduce them.Quote:
Originally Posted by RAS007
I just hope Mateschitz isn't thinking of dumbing the category down to an "extreme" sport.
I think anything but motors tv would be a plus. They just **** on and you can't here the cars at all and get no proper visual insights into individual stages. Hell, it looks like there wont even be a DVD of highlights for this season. If Red Bull can mimic what Eurosport did with IRc I will be pleased. Their coverage was very detailed.Quote:
Originally Posted by tfp
Eurosport would be great.
Eurosport?? Er, wait a minute – they are the ERC Promoters – and lost out as WRC promoters; they’re hardly likely to put the WRC on, or am I missing something?
Anyway, if you have a PC, Tablet, Smartphone – it’s highly likely the coverage will be on RedBullTV...and can be accessed on there.
Umm, you do know that it doesn't work? That's why crowds are staying away from live rallies, TV viewing figures are in the gutter and we've only got two works teams next season. WRC is crap and whoever takes over needs to change something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prisoner Monkeys
OK, their coverage is rubbish, but would you complain if they showed live SSS on friday night, saturday night and sunday afternoon? I know I wouldnt :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Plan9
Edit - If you live down under, then you'd be watching SSS on saturday morning, sunday morning and sunday evening ;)
One of the most exiting in 2013 for the armchair brigade will be to follow the development of web and TV services for the two main rally series and the two media houses!
Lets see who has the biggest progress and transformation over the season!
And all of those are problems that can be fixed by introducing a new promoter. Mateschitz's comments refer more to the format of the rallies than their operations. He obviously don't want to go changing things on a fundamental level at the same time as bringing in a new promoter. He needs to turn around the viewing figures first before the category starts introducing radical changes, because if he tries to do both, it will be difficult to pinpoint exactly what works and what doesn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrJan
I believe that the viewing figures are down because the sport doesn't grab people like it used to. And who said anything about radical changes? Making it so that rallies are 30+ stages long and have a proper number of tests on a Sunday is hardly ground breaking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prisoner Monkeys
Been looking at TV promo spots and stumbled onto this - https://vimeo.com/13612779. I hope that no one makes that kind of promo any more for WRC because it is no wonder that the ratings started to go down.
Ok, I haven't been here for absolutely ages, so could someone please explain it to me, what would be the TV coverage of 2013 WRC in Europe?
I just hope it won't be Motors TV exclusively.
This is not meant as a dig at you. But why do people slate motorstv so much. At least they had the WRC on all year. I agree that there picture quality is not the best but at least they had it on all year. They only show what the people at WRc provide...
It could be worse - this is the crap that we get every year for the Bathurst 1000:Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
V8 Supercars 2011 - The Supercheap Auto Bathurst 1000 - Intro Video "This Mountain" - YouTube
Dramatic voice-overs, unnecessary lens-flares and slow-motion shots of water falling off the drivers, a Hollywood score, and it all adds up to a pretentious, self-indulgent mess that has very little to do with the actual race and is really just an excuse for the network broadcasting it to spend as much money as they possibly can to turn motorsport into a show.
No they don't, we had HD quality on ViasatQuote:
Originally Posted by gtimad73
You'd be amazed what kind of ****ty quality programmes the networks send to the transmission centers. The quality is quite often similar to the lower Youtube resolutions, e.g. 260p.Quote:
Originally Posted by gtimad73
As SubaruNorway hinted, the production company sends a high quality file to the networks. So it's most likely MotorsTV who does some chemistry with the footage.
Prisoner Monkeys, that intro isn't bad at all. It's just that the voice over isn't supporting the visuals and the repetition of 'the mountain' gets annoying after like the second time.
I'm in Australia. SPEED TV showed the WRC in HD.
I've also sourced Viasat in HD.
I've sourced MotorsTV and it was in SD. Each of the networks around the world get supplied the HD coverage of the sport. It's up to who ever broadcasts it to show in HD. Perhaps MotorsTV don't have a High Definition feed on the satellite provider hence the poor quality. You have SD channels still on Sat and Cable TV around the world...
If you source a copy of the WRC directs from UBS from this year, it has ALL been filmed in HD!
Here is an insight of the WRC coverage from 2012!!!
http://www.live-production.tv/case-s...p-quantel.html
I don't think MotorsTV show anything in HD. In fact, a lot of their output is barely SD....
Occasionally, both MotorsTV & Eurosport had the WEC on at the same time, Eurosport had it on HD and Eurosport2 - and the quality on Eurosport2 was far better than MotorsTV, even they were both SD.
So, Motors TV it is then?
Yes, the picture quality isn't the best there is, but I didn't really mind that.
What annoyed me is the quality of the programme itself, consisting of 90% of on-boards, which I find dull.
But, my local cable provider took care of it for me, by putting Motors TV in another package, which i have no intention of buying. Hence my question in the 1st place, will it be available anywhere else.
MotorsTV (if I remember correctly) does not have as much satellite bandwidth as other channels hence the somewhat lower picture quality.
And at the begining of 2011, MotorsTV had an agreement with the promotor who ever it was at the time (UBS/NorthOne) that they could ONLY show 5 minutes of OUTSIDE coverage of the car, the rest was inside. Then when NorthOne finally went down the drain, they could show as much as they want picking up two commentators. But the QUALITY of the broadcast was still low....
Commentators were really bad, too much speech...
You can't please all of the people, all of the time. I'd rather too much commentary than the long periods of silence the earlier programmes on MotorsTV suffered from.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
Really enjoyed 10 minutes onboards from previous seasons.
Ooh! I wonder if they'll keep using Quantel... I have 4 years experience editing with Quantel, 1 year editing national rally championship coverage... love the WRC... call me you guys!Quote:
Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
Source: Facebook. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
This seems to be RedBull's first bit of media for the buildup to the 2013 season.. VIDEO: Mads Ostberg
I'm not sure what I was expecting, but I was pleasantly surprised by it. I liked the way they just let Ostberg talk without the structure of an interview; I feel it let him give some insight that would not have been covered otherwise.
Prisoner Monkeys, the structure of an interview is there actually. Just the questions have been cut out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prisoner Monkeys
Some very weird camera angles from the interview. The core fans should be quite happy if that kind of clips keep coming throughout the season.
2 weeks till the new season and in the Uk at least we still dont know what channel we will be watching the WRC on. What a complete joke...
This Search - ITV TV Guide seems to suggest WRC on ESPN but no guarantee that these programs are new or are past broadcasts.. There are no mentions of WRC on MotorsTV or ESPN's own listings..
I imagine it's a hard sell for the UK - Monte has no British drivers entered, just 1 co-driver. Add in the fact there will be no Brit in a top seat for the rest of the year, can we expect anything different from what we've had recently?Quote:
Originally Posted by Allyc85
You'll know as well as any other UK fan, the sport desperately needs some mainstream coverage - it's in a media vacuum here.
I note there's been a few changes to WRC.com in recent days.
Seems to be a new video player, and a new sponsor in Certina - obviously replacing Edox.
Any reason to think this isn't the current list of broadcasters?
World Rally Championship - Fanzone - WRC TV Guide