I'm sorry, but if you think your GP is "comfortable" @ 85mph then I'll have what you're smoking!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
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I'm sorry, but if you think your GP is "comfortable" @ 85mph then I'll have what you're smoking!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
More comfortable than walking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Sorry, I should have said F1 lookalike.Quote:
Originally Posted by Retro Formula 1
Don't know if it's still there but Hams military vehicle was still parked around the corner Thursday. Wonder if they've forgotten about it. Finders keepers :D
How many people that own a GT-R or an XKR would be able to actually tell the difference, in terms of speed, when on the road?Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
I agree with Jon, not on the Jag part but on the GT-R just not doing it for me. Yes it has brutal acceleration, yes it has great torque and road holding, but it's still leaves me feeling 'meh'. A tidy MK1 Mexico would be left for dead by a GT-R, but that doesn't mean I don't want one more than the Nissan. An E-Type would be blown into the weeds but guess what, yup I'd rather own one than the GT-R (in fact I'd be willing to pay over the odds if it was a choice between the two). F*** me, if I had 70k burning a hole in my pocket I'd rather knock it all on one of these Alfa Romeo 2000 GTV Bertone for sale, classic cars for sale uk (Car: 141870) than to chuck it on the GT-R.
And ultimately, as pointed out, it's pointless in the UK. Even my less than a grand, 160bhp (when new) falling apart 'Jap crap' will exceed the NSL before I hit the redline in 2nd gear.
And you know the thing that really brings it home for me? The GT-R is the sensible choice, not in terms of all cars available, but in comparison to the XKR and ones that I've listed above. And I just can't bring myself to make the sensible choice when it comes to cars, it all comes down to what feels right. That's why I'm still spunking my money on fuel for a car that runs on petrol, 8 months or so since I decided that I needed a diesel that was cheap to run. It's why I've repeatedly made silly offers on diesel cars that will never be accepted, and it's why I've repeatedly walked away and got back into my impractical 2-seater that I can't really afford.
Anywhoo, I enjoyed TG last night. It was ridiculous and stupid but if that's not what you want then it's been clear for the last 5 years that Top Gear isn't the show for you. Now to scour the internet and buy a tank, shame it'll get beaten off the lights by some guy in a Skyline ;)
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Originally Posted by barryfullalove
If speed and performance is so important than why not buy a Caterham R500 for £30k less than the GTR?
That's a good point. If you want a track day car, then you might as well buy a real track car.
There are plenty of road cars with more than enough power to be fun but you don't have to have a supercar.
I don't think people are getting the point. We're only talking about those two cars there, not the whole market. Of course, I would never even think about buying any of those. But let's say, hypothetically, you had 100,000 GBP and you wanted to buy a 2-door coupe supercar. You narrowed it down to those two cars. If you are a Brit, and you love the look of the Jag, are you willing to pay 30,000 GBP extra for a car that is technically inferior but looks prettier?
Or even 5000-6000 GBP more for a technically inferior, but better looking car?
But the segment wasn't strictly about the use of the car on a track. Handling and acceleration translate to the real world as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
I can have fun on the road in my 500, heck there's a lot more fun to be had in the Subaru with almost 2 times the power but to be let loose in a GTR on the road would be fun.
Christ almighty that 105 is overpriced and it's not even a particularly pretty one with the ugly stepped 2000 GTV grille.Quote:
Originally Posted by barryfullalove
Tbh I don't think I'll ever buy a diesel car. Petrol is just so much more fun and with the advancements of late petrols can be pretty economical too if you drive them right. Putting diesel in your car is just such a joyless way to go motoring IMHO.
Likewise the development of diesel engines means that they're getting much more fun to drive, you just have to drive it in a different way.
They're better, but I still don't think they're properly fun to drive.Quote:
Originally Posted by barryfullalove
But then you have to weigh up the money saved against the extra fun you can get from a petol. And as time goes by the fun that you're able to have is only going to diminish as roads become busier and speed limits stricter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
I don't buy the whole busier roads and stricter speed limits bs. Speeding enforcement here is very lax compared to back in Australia. In the 5 years I was driving in Australia I got 4 speeding fines and 1 point on my licence. Been in the UK for 5 years and have probably done 2 or 3 times the mileage I did in Australia in that time and no fines, just being pulled over once I've been here and to be fair what i was doing did look suspicious.Quote:
Originally Posted by barryfullalove
Plenty of roads to have fun on as well :)
Meant to say as well that with the Euro V emissions standards and the ones coming in the future, diesels will be handicapped more than petrols. You'd be surprised at the consumption figures modern turbocharged engines are doing ;)
Watch this space with regard to speeding. I wasn't saying it's bad now, but it's definitely getting worse. I also appreciate that other countries are much stricter, I've just come back from Ontario where (if you're over 50km/h over the limit) you get a $10,000 fine, road side license suspension and road side vehicle conviscation. It's only a matter of time before we get that kind of thing being introduced over here.
And with respect you're hardly placed to talk about busier roads, 5 years isn't really that long to spend in a country and judge what the traffic is like. I'm more going by what my old man says. He used to drive pretty enthusiastically back in the mid to late 70s and he now says that it's a long way from what it used to be. He even drives a lot slower than he did 10 years ago because he says that there is so much risk with the rise in traffic numbers. Feel free to produce some statistics that prove him wrong though.
When I'm talking about busy roads I'm saying that if you try you can find some nice quiet roads.Quote:
Originally Posted by barryfullalove
With regards to speeding, if anything it's getting better, loads of counties are scrapping their speed camera schemes.
Speeding?!
Is it speeding doing 90 km/h where there are no restrictions even though the car in front is only doing 50 while it's driver holds tight to his steering wheel in each turn?
If yes then I am doing a lot of it, still I've never got a fine for my driving habits.
You can get a lot of pleasure from driving fast if you do it properly.
I really enjoyed the first half/two-thirdsQuote:
Originally Posted by Dave B
The Jensen was terrific. Not the stereotypical Jezza review considering its an updated muscle car.
The Intercepters would make a brilliant tv show, even if it would be an Austin Powers rip-off.
This series/season has been rather good, the consistency is a bit better.
Lovely car but as already mentioned thats a steep price for the model, and it isn't even the 1750GTV...Quote:
Originally Posted by barryfullalove
Now if I had 70k in my pocket I'd buy one of these:
2003 HONDA VTR 1000 SP2 | eBay
for 6k, spend another k or so returning it back to original spec. There, I've already got something quicker than a GTR for a tenth of the price.
Then I'd have one of these please:
Richard Thorne Classic Cars » Lancia & Classics
A series 1 for 12k. Something I've always wanted.
Now for some waft. Can't make my mind up between these two:
Richard Thorne Classic Cars » Lancia & Classics
French Classics | Citroen DS, Citroen HY Vans for Sale
Though I'd prefer a semiautomatic for the Citroen. I'll probably go for the DS because I don't want two Lancias.
So thats 36k or so I think. What to do with the rest of my money? I think I'll press the boring button and go for one of these:
Ducati Multistrada 1200
for everyday which should take me up to 50k.
And with the rest? Think I'll go for a bloody nice holiday.
All for the price of a GTR....
Probably about time she got a new car ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Why? Only a person who doesn't know much about cars thinks that a car is worn out because it goes over 200k miles :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bezza
What did folks think of last night's episode. Well the last item in particular - the disabled servicement planning on doing Dakar. Amazing bunch of guys.
I missed last night's programme and for the first time wasn't bothered. It's on my Sky hard drive but I'm not sure I'll get a chance to watch it. For me, it's gone from "must-see" to "meh".
Fast forward through the Louis Walsh bit..... the rest is actually decent enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave B
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Originally Posted by henners88
One thing I noticed was that they weren't wearing their HANS devices properly in the Freelander, I hope if they do the Dakar they wear them properly.
Your equipment doesn't get checked for how you're wearing it when you enter an event, simply that it is there, that it's functional and not damaged. The straps on their belts were simply too loose to hold the HANS device in place or the belts were under the HANS device, and not above as is meant to be. If you watch again you'll see what I mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
http://onebadwheel.com/img/articles/hans-device-02.gif
The clips they showed when the HANS was above the belts was only from 1 run and not several runs. You've got to bare in mind this was their first ever off road event, and first time in competition.
I guess, it's not a criticism, I just hope someone shows them how to use it properly that's all :) It would be very sad if either of them got injured even further. Their HANS devices seemed to be used properly in the Wildcat which was good.Quote:
Originally Posted by 306 Cosworth
First Tesla, now Nissan.
Nissan hits back at Top Gear - Telegraph
I know modes of transport Jeremy doesn't like don't get a fair showing on Top Gear but this is stretching things too far.
I think the part about the disabled parking bays is a blown out of proportion on the account of Disabled Motoring UK, to be honest. But the 40% charged battery did an injustice to the report on the car - speaking as someone who did not actually see the episode, by the way.
Something I've always wanted to know.
Why do disabled people get to use pay-and-display car parks for free?
They don't always. Quite a few around here still charge. I guess the point is that quite often disabled people cannot use public transport or 'walk' to a destination so they need the parking places and offering them for free allows them to access the local businesses.
Completely agree. I don't see why Top Gear should be allowed to lie like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan H
Did they lie? I'm fairly certain they never claimed the car was fully charged. Merely that the car had a range of 14 miles left, and the nearest charge point was 30 odd away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
I'm sorry henners but misrepresenting a product is not on
Misrepresentation? How?
Jeez I can't think how.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollo
And again the annoying "not wild enough" crap from Hammond on the Lambo Aventador segment. :mad: Why they are bashing good handling cars these days is beyond me. I'm sorry but it's just idiotic.
Teams running in several GT championships around the world, who slave and slave to find the perfect handling setup would be quite happy to run a good handling Lambo, thank you very much. And that competition environment is where these cars will be pushed to the max anyway, so what's the fuss? Nobody is gonna feel the difference EVER between the new Lambo and the old one in normal road conditions.
Why don't they break the steering column and put sand in the gearbox? A lot of this "fun" they're seeking will follow for sure.
Back on the electric car topic. I could (just) about understand Nissan's point if it were only electric cars that TG lambasted for poor range. Was it 'the worlds greatest road' episode, when jezza's Lambo ran dry? I don't recall a single complaint, or cries of misrepresentation then.
The point they were making was the time taken to recharge NOT the range.