Rally History (part II)

Eddy Nijs

Thank you, Kyosti !

Regards

Giorgio

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Originally Posted by jrally

Happy Birthday, infiniti !

Drink one for me, ok ?

All the best
Regards
jorge

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Thanks Jorge, I have done it.
Piet

Someone knows.......

1969
???? Onyn - ???? Wauters

1970
Claude Laurent - ???? Milani

1971
Claude Laurent - P???? Hammelrath
Jean-Paul Rieu - ???? Bourguignon
"Chavan" (Charles van Stalle) - ???? Loyens

1972
Jean-Louis Goblet - ???? Derosée

1974
Rudolf Moortgat - "Andy" (???? ????)
???? Louvay - ???? Hendrickx
???? Darimont - Eddy Nijs
???? Engels - ???? du Bulde

1975
Heinz Walter Schewe - ???? Petersen
???? Levaux - ???? Moers

1976
Franz Wittman - ???? Kalnay
???? Verhulst - Georges van Oosten
Willy Plas - ???? Doum
"Gustavson" (Gust de Schryver) - ???? Delangen
???? Verhulst - ???? van den Houtte
???? Lois - ???? Rossi
"Chavan" (Charles van Stalle) - ???? Daenen
???? Mallard - ???? de Barsy

1977
???? Stephan - ???? Blanchy
Peter Brink - ???? Ricken
Christian Coeuille - ???? Berthon
Jean-Marie Carron - M???? Schaer


Thanks in advance

Giorgio

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Originally Posted by rmprotune

I also have a document wich points out the car was shiped to Great Britain and worked on by Alexander tuning later that year and the engine was rebuilt to G2 specs. possibilaty the oil cooler was installed then???

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Just to correct earlier post, a 1275 could possibly have run in Gp1 by April 64. It is a bit before the time I have direct knowledge of! The 64 Monte Carlo winning Cooper S was a 1071 but the 1275 and 970 were both homologated by April 64 in Gp2. Makinen won the Tulip rally in a 1275 in April 64 and I have actually seen a copy of the front page of the 970 homologation papers (but not the 1275) showing that Gp2 homologation was achieved in April. I am pretty sure I have seen other reference to both the 970 and 1275 being homologated at the same time. This was under the version of Appendix J that applied up to 31.12.65. The new Appendix J for 1966 had the same minimum production quantity of 1000 for Gp2 but now required 5000 for Gp1 when 1000 was the previous quantity. These quantities were not checked as closely as they would be now. It is quite possible that homologation (1000) was achieved in April 64 even if production only started in March! I have not seen direct evidence that the 1275 was homologated in Gp1 at the same time as well as Gp2 under the "old" Appendix J but it must have been at some point because Tony Fall made his name in a private 1275 Gp1 car in 1965 European Championship rallies.
It would have been the "dry" suspension - it was under the later Gp1 that only Hydrolastic was allowed (until a re-homologation later allowed it again in Gp2 but not Gp1)..
Alexander was one of countless small UK tuning firms of the period. Modifying it to Gp2 would not necessarily have meant full works spec (Downton engine) and would probably have been head and cam and 1.5 inch SUs in place of 1.25inch. The front panel should show signs of being cut and turned inwards to form the bottom mounting for the oil cooler. Cars fitted with it as standard later on would show a neater fitting.

I made a mistake on my 1st post ,the car was built in may 1964 no march and the oil cooler is mounted on the motor beneath the generator not on the front panel ,it does look like a bmc instalation. once again I apricciate your replys and knowledge .thank you. It has been dificult to gather info from over seas about the little car. I hade a chance to review some of the paper work I got with car and I states the car was also raced thru the 1965 season In Germany as G2 .

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Originally Posted by FAL

Just to correct earlier post, a 1275 could possibly have run in Gp1 by April 64. It is a bit before the time I have direct knowledge of! The 64 Monte Carlo winning Cooper S was a 1071 but the 1275 and 970 were both homologated by April 64 in Gp2. Makinen won the Tulip rally in a 1275 in April 64 and I have actually seen a copy of the front page of the 970 homologation papers (but not the 1275) showing that Gp2 homologation was achieved in April. I am pretty sure I have seen other reference to both the 970 and 1275 being homologated at the same time. This was under the version of Appendix J that applied up to 31.12.65. The new Appendix J for 1966 had the same minimum production quantity of 1000 for Gp2 but now required 5000 for Gp1 when 1000 was the previous quantity. These quantities were not checked as closely as they would be now. It is quite possible that homologation (1000) was achieved in April 64 even if production only started in March! I have not seen direct evidence that the 1275 was homologated in Gp1 at the same time as well as Gp2 under the "old" Appendix J but it must have been at some point because Tony Fall made his name in a private 1275 Gp1 car in 1965 European Championship rallies.
It would have been the "dry" suspension - it was under the later Gp1 that only Hydrolastic was allowed (until a re-homologation later allowed it again in Gp2 but not Gp1)..
Alexander was one of countless small UK tuning firms of the period. Modifying it to Gp2 would not necessarily have meant full works spec (Downton engine) and would probably have been head and cam and 1.5 inch SUs in place of 1.25inch. The front panel should show signs of being cut and turned inwards to form the bottom mounting for the oil cooler. Cars fitted with it as standard later on would show a neater fitting.

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the engine build sheet that I have it says: Alexander engeneeringcompany ltd.Haddenham
1.competion pistons,12:1 0.20
2.648 cam with shaler 4 grind 0.17 in/ex, 1 1/2"H4
3.crankshaft ,rods, balanced,oil holes champfered.
4.head milled .020
5. block milled .003
6.3.93 crown and pinion
7.reverse lock-out
8. dunlop R-7 tires
9. roll bar
10.fire extinguisher
11. lower steering column
12. rev counter, 8000 rpm max
the cost was 1200 GBP

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Originally Posted by rmprotune

the engine build sheet that I have it says: Alexander engeneeringcompany ltd.Haddenham
1.competion pistons,12:1 0.20
2.648 cam with shaler 4 grind 0.17 in/ex, 1 1/2"H4
3.crankshaft ,rods, balanced,oil holes champfered.
4.head milled .020
5. block milled .003
6.3.93 crown and pinion
7.reverse lock-out
8. dunlop R-7 tires
9. roll bar
10.fire extinguisher
11. lower steering column
12. rev counter, 8000 rpm max
the cost was 1200 GBP

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Yes, that is race spec, not rally. Even on tarmac the works rally cars would not have used a 648 cam with a 3.9 diff!

Someone knows.......

1976
Franz Wittman - ???? Kalnay
???? Verhulst - Georges van Oosten
Willy Plas - ???? Doum
"Gustavson" (Gust de Schryver) - ???? Delangen
???? Verhulst - ???? van den Houtte
???? Lois - ???? Rossi
"Chavan" (Charles van Stalle) - ???? Daenen
???? Mallard - ???? de Barsy

1977
???? Stephan - ???? Blanchy
Peter Brink - ???? Ricken
Christian Coeuille - ???? Berthon
Jean-Marie Carron - M???? Schaer

1978
Henk Vossen - ???? Thomas
Andrej Smolej - ???? Ostmann
Jean-Louis Dumont - ???? Rorife

1979
Jean-Marie Jacquemin - ???? Destat

1980
Pol Lietaer - ???? Lietaer
Jean-Louis Dumont - ???? Borremans

1982
???? Everett - Daniel Colebunders
Jean-Louis Dumont - ???? Droven

1984
Jean-Louis Dumont - ???? Richard

1985
???? Reginster - ???? Delmelle



Thanks in advance

Giorgio

1978
Jean-Louis Dumont - Robert Rorife

1979
Jean-Marie Jacquemin - Max Destat

1980
Pol Lietaer - Luc Lietaer
Jean-Louis Dumont - Eddy Borremans

1982
Simon Everett - Daniel Colebunders
Jean-Louis Dumont - Philippe Droeven

1984
Jean-Louis Dumont - Raymond Richard

1985
Thierry Reginster - Marc Delmelle

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Originally Posted by Giorgio

Someone knows.......

1978
Andrej Smolej - ???? Ostmann
Giorgio

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I think it was WALTER Smolej. I never heard of Andrej Smolej.
Regards
Janusz

Very thanks, Juha and Janusz !

Regards

Giorgio

Someone knows.......


9 aprile 1999
Belgium

?? Rally des Hautes Fagnes
Start: Liège
Finish: Liège

km. ???
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. 2
championnat des rallyes de belgique
international rally

Results:
1. Patrick Snijers - ???? ???? (Subaru Impreza)
2. David Loix - ???? ???? (Toyota Corolla WRC)
3. Larry Cols - ???? Gérard (Mitsubishi Lancer)

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26 marzo 1999
Belgium

48° Circuit des Ardennes
Start: Dinant
Finish: Dinant

km. ???
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. 2
championnat des rallyes de belgique
international rally

Results:
1. David Loix - ???? ???? (Toyota Corolla WRC)
2. Pascal Gaban - ???? ???? (Citroen Saxo kit)
3. Xavier Bouche - ???? ???? (Citroen Saxo kit)

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23 ottobre 1998
Belgium

25° Rally du Condroz
Start: Huy
Finish: Huy

km. ???
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
championnat des rallyes de belgique
international rally

Results:
1. Renaud Verreydt - ???? ???? (Subaru Impreza WRC)
2. Kris Princen - ???? ???? (Renault Mégane)
3. François Delecour - ???? ???? (Ford Escort WRC)

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5 novembre 1994
Belgium

?? Rally du Condroz
Start: Huy
Finish: Huy

km. ???
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
championnat des rallyes de belgique

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)


Thanks in advance

Giorgio

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Originally Posted by Giorgio

Someone knows.......


9 aprile 1999
Belgium

14. Rally des Hautes Fagnes
Start: Liège
Finish: Liège

km. ???
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. 2
championnat des rallyes de belgique
international rally

Results:
1. Patrick Snijers - EDDY VAN DER PLUYM (Subaru Impreza 555)
2. David Loix - JEAN-FRANCOIS ELST (Toyota Corolla WRC)
3. Larry Cols - PASCAL LOPES (Mitsubishi Lancer)

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26 marzo 1999
Belgium

48° Circuit des Ardennes
Start: Dinant
Finish: Dinant

km. ???
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. 2
championnat des rallyes de belgique
international rally

Results:
1. David Loix - JEAN-FRANCOIS ELST (Toyota Corolla WRC)
2. Pascal Gaban - EDDY CHEVAILLIER (Citroen Saxo kit)
3. Xavier Bouche - ???? CLAES (Citroen Saxo kit)

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23 ottobre 1998
Belgium

25° Rally du Condroz
Start: Huy
Finish: Huy

km. ???
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. 2
championnat des rallyes de belgique
international rally

Results:
1. Renaud Verreydt - JEAN-FRANCOIS ELST (Subaru Impreza WRC)
2. Kris Princen - ???? GENTEN (Renault Mégane)
3. François Delecour - DANIEL GRATALOUP (Ford Escort WRC)

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5-6 novembre 1994
Belgium

21. Rally du Condroz
Start: Huy
Finish: Huy

km. ???
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. 5
championnat des rallyes de belgique

Results:
1. ANDREA AGHINI - SAURO FARNOCCHIA (TOYOTA CELICA TURBO 4WD)
2. PATRICK SNIJERS - DANY COLEBUNDERS (FORD ESCORT RS COSWORTH)
3. RENAUD VERREYDT - GEORGES BIAR (TOYOTA CELICA GT-FOUR)


Thanks in advance

Giorgio

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Regards
Janusz

Fantastic, Janusz! Very thanks...

Regards

Giorgio

9-10 aprile 1999
Belgium

14. Rally des Hautes Fagnes
Start: Jalhay
Finish: Jalhay

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26-27 marzo 1999
Belgium

48° Circuit des Ardennes

3. Xavier Bouche - V. CLAES (Citroen Saxo kit)

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25° Rally du Condroz
Start: Huy
Finish: Huy

Results:
2. Kris Princen - LILY GENTEN (Renault Mégane)

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5-6 novembre 1994

21. Rally du Condroz

Results:
1. ANDREA AGHINI - SAURO FARNOCCHIA (TOYOTA CELICA TURBO 4WD)
3. RENAUD VERREYDT - GEORGES BIAR (TOYOTA CELICA GT-FOUR)

Verreydt and Aghini had identical cars, a Celica turbo 4WD, no GT4. ;)

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Originally Posted by Giorgio

Someone knows.......

1969

???? Deprez - ???? Bertinchamps
???? Onyn - ???? Wauters

1970

Claude Laurent - ???? Milani

1971

Claude Laurent - PHILIPPE Hammelrath
Jean-Paul Rieu - ???? Bourguignon
"Chavan" (Charles van Stalle) - ???? Loyens

1972

Kridel - ???? Brandenburger
Jean-Louis Goblet - ???? Derosée

1974

Rudolf Moortgat - "Andy" (???? ????)
???? Louvay - GUY Hendrickx
HENRI Darimont - ???? Nys



???? Braillard - Willy Lux
ROGER Engels - ???? du Bulde

1975

Pierre Rouget - ???? Chonez
Heinz Walter Schewe - PETER Petersen
???? Levaux - ???? Moers


Thanks in advance

Giorgio

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Greetings from Ypres

It is Serge (from Arras, France) and not Claude Laurent.

His co-driver was GERARD Milani

Very thanks, Juha and kyosti !

Best regards

Giorgio

Someone knows.......


8 aprile 1994
Belgium

Rally des Hautes Fagnes
Start: Liège
Finish: Liège

km. ???
groups N - A
european rally championship - coeff. ??
belgian rally championship
international rally

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

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25 marzo 1994
Belgium

44° Circuit des Ardennes
Start: Dinant
Finish: Dinant

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
championnat des rallyes de belgique
international rally

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

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18 febbraio 1994
Belgium

?? Boucles de Spa
Start: Spa
Finish: Spa

km. ???
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
championnat des rallyes de belgique
international rally

Results:
1. François Chatriot - ???? ???? (Toyota Celica 4WD)
2. Dominique Bruyneel - ???? ???? (Lancia Delta HF Integrale)
3. Marc Timmers - ???? ???? (Subaru Impreza)

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?? / ?? / 1993 - 10° Rally de Wallonie
?? / ?? / 1994 - 11° Rally de Wallonie


Thanks in advance

Giorgio

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Originally Posted by Giorgio

Someone knows.......


8 aprile 1994
Belgium

9. Rally des Hautes Fagnes
Start: Liège
Finish: Liège

km. ???
groups N - A
european rally championship - coeff. 2
belgian rally championship
international rally

Results:
1. POUL? LIETAER - GEERT DERAMMELAERE (FORD ESCORT RS COSWORTH)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

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25 marzo 1994
Belgium

44° Circuit des Ardennes
Start: Dinant
Finish: Dinant

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. 5
championnat des rallyes de belgique
international rally

Results:
1. PATRICK SNIJERS - DANY COLEBUNDERS (FORD ESCORT RS COSWORTH)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

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18 febbraio 1994
Belgium

37. Boucles de Spa
Start: Spa
Finish: Spa

km. ???
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. 5
championnat des rallyes de belgique
international rally

Results:
1. François Chatriot - DENIS GIRAUDET (Toyota Celica 4WD)
2. Dominique Bruyneel - ???? ???? (Lancia Delta HF Integrale)
3. Marc Timmers - ???? ???? (Subaru Impreza)

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?? / ?? / 1993 - 10° Rally de Wallonie
?? / ?? / 1994 - 11° Rally de Wallonie


Thanks in advance

Giorgio

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regards
Janusz

Very thanks, Janusz!

Regards

Giorgio

Lietaer first name:
Paul in French
Pol in Flemish

Juha will be able to correct if I am wrong.

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Originally Posted by FAL

Lietaer first name:
Paul in French
Pol in Flemish

Juha will be able to correct if I am wrong.

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Its PAUL, not Pol.
And he is Flemish!

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Originally Posted by januszsz

regards
Janusz

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HF 94
1 Lietaer
2 Verreydt Jamar Ford ERSC GrA8
3 Bruyneel Fortin Lancia D I GrA8

CDA

1 Snijers
2 Verreydt Jamar Ford A8
3 Munster Elst Renault C A7

Thank you, Kyosti!

Regards

Giorgio

SPA
1
2 Bruyneel Fortin
3 Timmers Ulens

CDA
1
2 Verreydt Jamar Ford E RS C GrA8
3 Munster Elst Renault C GrA7

[quote="Giorgio"]Someone knows.......

1976
Franz Wittman - ???? Kalnay
RAOEL Verhulst - Georges van Oosten
Willy Plas - "Doum"
"Gustavson" (AUGUST de Schryver) - ???? DELANGHE
???? Verhulst - ???? van den Houtte
???? Lois - ???? Rossi
"Chavan" (Charles van Stalle) - ???? Daenen
???? Mallard - ???? de Barsy

1977
???? Stephan - ???? Blanchy
Peter Brink - Dr ERHARD Ricken
Christian Coeuille - YVAN Berthon
Jean-Marie Carron - M???? Schaer

1978
Henk Vossen - ???? Thomas
Andrej Smolej - ???? Ostmann
Jean-Louis Dumont - ROBERT Rorife

1979
Jean-Marie Jacquemin - ???? Destat

1980
PAUL Lietaer - LUC Lietaer
Jean-Louis Dumont - ???? Borremans

1982
SIMON Everett - Daniel Colebunders
Jean-Louis Dumont - PHILIPPE DROEVEN

1984
Jean-Louis Dumont - ???? Richard

1985
THIERY Reginster - ???? Delmelle



Maybe some more names tomorrow

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Originally Posted by kyosti

he is Flemish!

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I am well aware of that. I have driven in the same rallies as him.
What it isn't is "Poul" in above post. It's because I have seen it written as "Pol" so much lately that I was asking someone from Belgium if this was so. It always used to be written in Paul in either region of Belgium.

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Originally Posted by kyosti

Its PAUL, not Pol.
And he is Flemish!

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Exactly, the man only has one real name and it's written AU. A lot of people have started writing it 'Pol' but it's not correct. And neither is 'Polle' as it's his nickname along with others like "the moustache" or "The best in the West". :D

Thank you, kyosti and Juha!

Regards

Giorgio

Delmelle MARC
Richard RAYMOND

Borremans EDDY

Destat MAX

I've already posted that on the previous page kyosti. :D ;)

Thank you kyosti !

Giorgio

Someone knows.......

13 novembre 1993
Belgium

?? Rally du Condroz
Start: Huy
Finish: Huy

km. ???
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
belgian rally championship

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

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26 marzo 1993
Belgium

?? Circuit des Ardennes
Start: Dinant
Finish: Dinant

km. ???
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
international rally

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

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5 febbraio 1993
Belgium

?? Boucles de Spa
Start: Spa
Finish: Spa

km. ???
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
international rally

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

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Dates (day, month, year) for Rallye des Hautes Fagnes
1986 (first edition ??)
1987
1988
1990
1993
1995
1996
2001
2002
2003
2004

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Thanks in advance

Giorgio

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Originally Posted by Giorgio

Someone knows.......
13 novembre 1993
Belgium
20. Rally du Condroz
Start: Huy
Finish: Huy
km. ???
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. 5
belgian rally championship
Results:
1. PATRICK SNIJERS - DANY COLEBUNDERS (FORD ESCORT RS COSWORTH)
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26 marzo 1993
Belgium
43. Circuit des Ardennes
Start: Dinant
Finish: Dinant
km. ???
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. 5
international rally
Results:
1. GREGOIRE DE MEVIUS - WILLY LUX (NISSAN SUNNY GTI-R)
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5 febbraio 1993
Belgium
36. Boucles de Spa
Start: Spa
Finish: Spa
km. ???
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. 5
international rally
Results:
1. GREGOIRE DE MEVIUS - WILLY LUX (NISSAN SUNNY GTI-R)
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Dates (day, month, year) for Rallye des Hautes Fagnes
1986 (first edition ??)
1987
1988
1990
1993
1995 - 10TH EDITION 21-22.04
1996 - 11TH EDITION 12-13.04
2001 - 16TH EDITION
2002 - 17TH EDITION
2003 - 18TH EDITION
2004 - 19TH EDITION
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Thanks in advance
Giorgio

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Regards
Janusz