WRC mainclass from 2027

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Originally Posted by mknight

There it goes again.

Here in Norway the type of people that switched to EVs in large numbers as one of the first groups were BMW5/Audi A6 drivers that switched to Model S cause it accelerated much faster (for the same amount of money), and was more "cool and new" tech. Later same type of people switched to Porsche Taycan. Next type was BMW3 drivers that switched to Model 3 Performance, Polestar 2 performance or lately BMW i4/ Ioniq 5 N/ EV6 GT.

Similarly, before that you would get people switching from Volvo diesel to T8 plug-in hybrid partly because of much more power.

Neither of these are "green people at bike shows."

But off course there would be much fewer switching if the EV or hybrid was much more expensive. Which is why manus wanted to promote Hybrids/EVs to people that actually are likely to spend more money on a car. "Green people at bike shows" won't.

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And none of those are the kind that comes to watch rallying.

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Originally Posted by mknight

There it goes again.

Here in Norway the type of people that switched to EVs in large numbers as one of the first groups were BMW5/Audi A6 drivers that switched to Model S cause it accelerated much faster (for the same amount of money), and was more "cool and new" tech. Later same type of people switched to Porsche Taycan. Next type was BMW3 drivers that switched to Model 3 Performance, Polestar 2 performance or lately BMW i4/ Ioniq 5 N/ EV6 GT.

Similarly, before that you would get people switching from Volvo diesel to T8 plug-in hybrid partly because of much more power.

Neither of these are "green people at bike shows."

But off course there would be much fewer switching if the EV or hybrid was much more expensive. Which is why manus wanted to promote Hybrids/EVs to people that actually are likely to spend more money on a car. "Green people at bike shows" won't.

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the main reason imho was fiscal incentives (now to rethink)

The FIA technical director Xavier Mestelan Pinon has offered an update on plans to increase manufacturer interest in WRC 2027...

https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/...2027/10658175/

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Originally Posted by manthey

the main reason imho was fiscal incentives (now to rethink)

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For people who buy stupid expensive cars anyway, the 90% paying for luxury cars for the top 10%.

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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

The FIA technical director Xavier Mestelan Pinon has offered an update on plans to increase manufacturer interest in WRC 2027...

https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/...2027/10658175/

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its honestly impressive how we keep having articles saying absoluting nothing haha
we keep reading interviews with fia, team principals, drivers, brands etc about this new rules for 2027 and they all keep running in circles not knowing what to do. we are screwed.

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Originally Posted by saco0o

its honestly impressive how we keep having articles saying absoluting nothing haha
we keep reading interviews with fia, team principals, drivers, brands etc about this new rules for 2027 and they all keep running in circles not knowing what to do. we are screwed.

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They're so over confident. I wonder what will they do if no one new will apply. Probably they will wait 6-7 years before they will start scratching their heads. Don't know why this rallying world always gets the news and all that comes along too late. And in comparision with F1 they're like. New regs will come out 2026 for 2035 cycle. Drivers signing new contracts 2 years before expiration for 10+ years, deals and venues get 20+ years and again few years before contracts ends. And here, well. We got something... Quite... They're talking... That's something no other series do better, I think. Bringing nothing and even that could be tweaked to worse (their thinking maybe)

What’s this about?

https://x.com/motorsportskoda/status...C1kV5QC61vX5Xg

Enyaq RS Race. An electric prototype by Skoda.

They're probably just experimenting, like Ford did with that SuperVan, VW with that pikespeak machine record breaker. Skoda just unveiled some small SUV, Elroq.. It kinda like Fabia but higher. It could be perfect if everyone would go that way (and if they have a vision to cancel Fabia, like veryone else these days).

Some time ago I commented on Facebook under their post in a joke and they actualy reply. It was about their 600 cars sold. I commented them, how many seasons could they afford with all that money they get out of those cars. They reply: that is not realistic. In order to be viable, we closed down our factory team and focused purely on Customer Racing Programme, which we have perfected and thanks to which we can continue, and sustainability programmes also allow us to exist today and in the future. As Peter comments, going Rally1 under current conditions is not possible for us.

hmmmmmmmmm smells like TCR? do we know if thats even something related to rallying?

anyway, rally2 rules are also changing in 2027 right?
its seems like the 'easier' way to go is to simply move from small hatchbacks to small crossover cars, keeping all the rest the same but with some upgrades on the door impact safety.
we talk a lot abot rally1s here, but if they are changing rally2s, they cannot go too crazy on that. new rules must allow current cars to compete on pair, so we can have a gradual change with time. waaay too many R5s out there for it to be simply scrapped.