I will probably be banned for this, but...shooting thread!

well lets take it one step further I would rather have to deal with a bullet vs a furnace

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Originally Posted by Starter

A completely false statement that flies in the face of reality. Unless you can present a convincing argument for how, on making gun ownership illegal or at least extremely difficult, you will magically make the millions of existing firearms go away. You need to look for another reason to support your stand.

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Maybe it would be a good idea to make bullet ownership and selling illegal. Existing bullet's would run out faster than the existing firearms. Besides, without bullets, guns are pretty much useless. I'm sure that even the Swiss who have their military assault rifles at home don't have ammunition for those at home.

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Originally Posted by Eki

Maybe it would be a good idea to make bullet ownership and selling illegal. Existing bullet's would run out faster than the existing firearms. Besides, without bullets, guns are pretty much useless. I'm sure that even the Swiss who have their military assault rifles at home don't have ammunition for those at home.

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The Swiss do, however, have to keep a bit of ammo with their assult rifles.

Thought I'd share this, perhaps to put some perspective on firearms regulations outside of the USA.

The curriculum vitae of a former neighbour of mine:
His full time occupation is a law enforcement officer for the city Sherriff’s department.
He is an on-call member of the city tactical squad.
He is also a reservist in the Canadian Armed Forces.
He manages his own shooting club.
He was a good neighbour to have around :p : .

He obviously has access to a wide array of firearms.

Having shared a few refreshments ( :uhoh: ) since I’ve known him, I thought I’d highlight a few facts about firearms regulations in Canada:

Even in his experienced capacity, the following applies:
A federal government issued firearms permit is required to transport his weapons.
He is not permitted to transport fully automatic weapons, unless when on duty with the city tactical unit. His standard-issue sidearm must be kept in a locked storage container at the Sherriff’s office facility.
The only firearms he is permitted to transport when off duty are single shot rifles, unloaded, in a lockable case, with ammunition kept separate.
Both fully automatic and semi-automatic weapons are not permitted in his shooting club. The club has these types of weapons (e.g. M-16, AK-47, etc.) but all are modified to single-shot only.
Only club members who have a firearms permit can transport their weapons (as above), otherwise they must be kept in locked storage at the club facility.
Targets at the club are circular “bulls eye” type only. Human silhouette-type targets, including photographs are not permitted.

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Originally Posted by Rollo

No. Twat less likely now to commit a crime because it's now much harder to acquire guns in the first place.

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Ha! That was funny. But here in reality that Twat already has a gun, most likely he has it illegally now. What in the world makes you think more laws will change that?

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Originally Posted by airshifter

I don't own my guns for self protection either. But I had a family member that lived in a less safe area that made a home invader flee after threats to her person. I suspect she avoided bodily harm due to brandishing, not using, a gun.



Hitler had reasoning behind what he did....


"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let's not have any native militia or native police. German troops alone will bear the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order throughout the occupied Russian territories, and a system of military strong-points must be evolved to cover the entire occupied country." --Adolf Hitler, dinner talk on April 11, 1942, quoted in Hitler's Table Talk 1941-44: His Private Conversations, Second Edition (1973), Pg. 425-426. Translated by Norman Cameron and R. H. Stevens. Introduced and with a new preface by H. R. Trevor-Roper. The original German papers were known as Bormann-Vermerke.

From Nazi Gun Control

Today most of Europe is higher in crime in almost every aspect other than murder than the US is. That's another fact

Being that you can't address any post by Tony without attacks against his person, you obviously don't have a clear point of view on his posts IMO. I'll assume it's no longer worth commenting on.

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It was not Hitler that banned guns in Germany. It was the Weimar government in 1929. Doubtful if having guns the jewish population would have fared any better than they did since they owned a tiny percentage of guns at the time they were legal.

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Originally Posted by Starter

Some chance is almost always better than no chance.

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They had guns in the Warsaw ghetto:

Warsaw Ghetto Uprising - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And your chance depends on what their plans for you are. For example, in Western Europe, the Germans left most of those who weren't armed in peace, but those who took part in the armed resistance were in severe danger and likely to be tortured and killed if caught.

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Originally Posted by Eki

I hope donkeys are allowed to sponge bath or shower instead. Nobody likes a smelly donkey.

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Perhaps God smells then?

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Originally Posted by Starter

????
What exactly do you call the various Nazi death camps where millions were killed or nearly starved to death?

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You have to remember that the Russians were the nasty ones who picked on the porr, innocent, peace loving Nazi's who were just tyring to help the Jews, Russians, Blacks etc by providing mass holiday camps.

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Originally Posted by Starter

????
What exactly do you call the various Nazi death camps where millions were killed or nearly starved to death?

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Most Norwegians, Danes, Dutch, Belgians and French were never in death camps,they lived their lives pretty normally. They had local pro-Nazi governments and some even voluntarily joined the German military.